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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Looks nice. Why they don't sell PCs with cooling like that? What are the downsides?

[–] ManaYoodSushai@feddit.org 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I would guess that the low surface area would lead to problems. At first it would cool very well because of the huge thermal mass, but once it reaches thermal equilibrium the cooling would be quite weak.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd also think moving your PC will rip your CPU right off the motherboard

[–] Hedup@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The trick is not to move the PC, but rather the copper block, which just happens to have a PC attached to it.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, you're saying that putting blocks of copper on everything in a PC will automatically shed unnecessary parts, building a more efficient system?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just run a solid copper block for maximum efficiency.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't gold be more efficient? Can't I just fill my PC with gold doubloons? The rattling noise means it's running.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] gigachad@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

Yes! The only way to increase the surface is to build a higher tower!

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

lead to problems

We're talking about copper, dumdum.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

how long till it reaches thermal equilibrium? maybe it can endure a full load for an hour

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Your mom can endure a full… oh never mind.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

You're looking at about a half hour per kilogram of copper to raise it by 50 °C with 100W of heat.

Actual delta from ambient to thermal limit will typically be a little higher than that, but so is processor wattage on mid-to-high performance CPUs, so I'm happy enough with that as a ballpark estimate.

Someone else estimated that block as 4.5kg, so you've got something close to two and a half hours of cooling from an ambient start.

[–] ManaYoodSushai@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I was wondering about this too, but I'm not an engineer so I would have to look up how to calculate this

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Do you have any idea how expensive a solid block of copper that big is?

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If that block is roughly 4.5cm x 4.5cm x 25cm then the volume of it is about 500cm³ which translates to 4.5kg of copper. At 11€/kg that makes about 50 euros.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Cheaper than some noctua coolers.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

If this were in an enclosure, would it cause the PCB to bow over time?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Would you even notice, after buying the ram and storage?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 month ago

Yes but you save on manufacturing.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Despite the cost, it's damn heavy.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

and just stupid. Cooling fins of aluminum work better.

[–] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copper isn't that bad. It's not cheap exactly, but it's probably going to cost what an expensive CPU cooler already would.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but a CPU cooler will work better because it is active.

[–] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Well, yeah. Even a passive CPU cooler would probably work better.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 1 month ago

11 euro per kilogram

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have a micro ATX case that itself is the cooler. Heatpipes transport the heat to the case walls and they have fins to increase surface area. It can handle up to 65 watt CPUs.

It's not produced anymore. But with all the talk of the Gabecube I've been itching to make a new build with it. Unfortunately I have neither the money or the energy.

[–] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fanless cases are a thing, and they're neat.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

they use aluminum as a heat sink and heat transfer medium.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weight, cost, and it's probably not effective for the long haul. The mass of a copper ingot like that will work like a heatsink, but it has a very low surface area for the energy it can absorb. So it'll heat up to a point that is uncomfortable for the CPU, then fail to radiate that energy out to the air effectively.

As a test-bench temporary heatsink, this is actually kind of inspired. No fans, to fussy clips, just stack a copper brick on the CPU, run some benchmarks, and then turn it all off.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My guess is that will only work until it saturates with heat. Some liquid cooling setups are also like that, where the rad isn't capable of dissipating heat fast enough to prevent the whole thing from overheating, but it'll work fine for a while because the loop itself can absorb a bunch of heat before it stops being able to take any more. Then they probably blame the chip maker for running too hot even with liquid cooling when their liquid cooling setup is actually less effective than the stock cooler or their case has horrible airflow and would choke any size or number of rads. But their reservoir acts as a heat buffer, so it takes 30 mins to even realize that, but they've already concluded it works.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And sometimes that even would be a good strategy for cases where there's only short burst of higher heat output.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Incredibly unwieldy. Real quick estimate of volume puts that at around 1.75kg of copper, so it wouldn't be possible to mount in a vertical PC case orientation (ie the majority of consumer PC cases) without significant (expensive) modifications to both the mobo socket mount and the case, else its weight would snap the motherboard, or just slowly flex it until traces failed.

It may not even be able to be used vertically like that for very long or it will compress and damage the CPU / socket / mobo. Just as an example, the weight limit of the thermal solution (HSF/water chamber heatsink/etc) for socket LGA 1700 is 950g.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Real quick estimate of volume puts that at around 1.75kg of copper

I assume it's at least ~5 cm × 5 cm × 15 cm. Given the mass density of copper, 8.96 g/cm^3 , its mass is at least 3.36 kg.

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i find your estimate to be overed

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It begins with the question: How wide is the cpu?

Based on that dimension, it's approximately 3× as tall.

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

(if you notice the space bar, i think it’s a tiny computer)

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Copper is actually ~25-250X leas efficient at transferring heat than a heat pipe and convection is hundreds of times more efficient than radiation at transferring heat and the fins on a heat sink would have hundreds of times less surface area for dissipating heat all that is to say this might work but it would be orders of magnitude less efficient than a standard heat sink.