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“Telegram is not a private messenger. There’s nothing private about it. It’s the opposite. It’s a cloud messenger where every message you’ve ever sent or received is in plain text in a database that Telegram the organization controls and has access to it”

“It’s like a Russian oligarch starting an unencrypted version of WhatsApp, a pixel for pixel clone of WhatsApp. That should be kind of a difficult brand to operate. Somehow, they’ve done a really amazing job of convincing the whole world that this is an encrypted messaging app and that the founder is some kind of Russian dissident, even though he goes there once a month, the whole team lives in Russia, and their families are there.”

" What happened in France is they just chose not to respond to the subpoena. So that’s in violation of the law. And, he gets arrested in France, right? And everyone’s like, oh, France. But I think the key point is they have the data, like they can respond to the subpoenas where as Signal, for instance, doesn’t have access to the data and couldn’t respond to that same request.  To me it’s very obvious that Russia would’ve had a much less polite version of that conversation with Pavel Durov and the telegram team before this moment"

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[–] NominatedNemesis@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have to choose our threat level. Signal is great when you don't want to expose your data to companies mining it for their profit. It is not so great when you are a person of interest, and need absolute privacy.

The metadata is worthless and pricy to use it for an awarage joe.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thing is that there's nothing special about Signal that makes it better than alternatives like SimpleX. I just don't see why it should be promoted instead of them. Yes, it's better than WhatsApp where meta has a master key and can read your messages, but why settle when you can use a platform without compromises?

[–] NominatedNemesis@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Simple: I already migrated most of my friends over Signal. I did not know better alternatives at the time. While I agree with you, not about SimpleX I dont have enough info about it, but about that there are better solutions.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's fair. If you're already stuck on Signal, then it's difficult to make a move to something else. I'm mostly talking about people who are using something like WhatsApp, and it's better to make a fresh move to a platform that doesn't have the issues Signal has.