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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The US killed more people than any other nation ever. I already said that. Are you dense? It has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Joint military excercise is not joining shit. Poor Putin, your neighbors are practicing war what to do... Invade and murder you fellow countrymen! God you are stupid murder apologist.

What the fuck do the Nazi have to do with this other than retarded propaganda. Russia murdered how many of its own citizens throughout history. Sixty million in just the last hundred years!? You want me to be sympathetic to people who murder their own citizens for fun and guess what. They are still doing it.

Garbage people. Glad I don't carry water for for them like you do.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Joint military exercises are WORSE than joining shit. Stop being such an idealist. Signing a piece of paper is meaningless. Actually arming, practicing, and integrating real military battalions and weapons systems is far far worse than being officially recognized. The problem has nothing to do with Ukraine being covered by article 5 and everything to do with the Ukrainian state integrating its military posture with the US via NATO and deploying US weapon systems.

Poor Putin, your neighbors are practicing war what to do... Invade and murder you fellow countrymen! God you are stupid murder apologist.

Listen to yourself for just one second. Please. You are literally saying that the people who have killed more people than anyone else are now working with your neighbor and practicing war, specifically war against you, using the same legal framework they used to eventually invade several other countries. And they're doing it on the border with your country that Russia was invaded over twice in invasions that cost them massive military and civilian losses. And you are saying that Russia is a cry baby? That I'm a murder apologist for saying that Russia has legitimate security concerns?

Like, really reread just the first part of what you wrote.

  1. Yes, American is a bloodthirsty psychotic belligerent
  2. No, Ukraine and the US literally integrating and deploying combined lethal force systems is not a threat

What do the Nazis have to do with this? We're establishing that the threat to Russia is real.

Garbage people

There it is. Your entire argument rests on morality, idealism, vibes, and campism. You think Russia has no legitimate security interests because they are "bad" and you think that acknowledging the US is also "bad" absolves you of having to actually think about anything further. Russia is "bad" and therefore any action they take other than surrender is "bad". The US is "bad" and you don't "support" them but if they do something to Russia you're not going to worry because Russia is "bad".

There's an old joke where a KGB agent and a CIA agent meet for a friendly drink on neutral territory. The American says to the Soviet:

One thing I have to say about you Soviets, you have the best propaganda in the world

To which the Soviet replies:

Oh, no no no. We have great propaganda, yes, but it could never hold a candle to your propaganda in the US

To which the American replies:

What propaganda?

To which the Soviet replies:

Exactly.

You think that because I don't argue from the position of "Russia bad" that I'm the one infected by propaganda, never stopping to analyze your own self-contradictory positions, your emotional reactions signalling your cognitive dissonance, and your lack of shame in founding your entire argument on your belief that they are garbage people and that you have no sympathy for them.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Looks like it was a good thing for Ukraine to practice with the NATO fascists after all. Russia proved it is the aggressor and you can't accept it because you like the nasty warm piss filled Kool Aid Putin prepared for you. As the pedo rapist Trump would say, "That is very sad."

Speaking of Trump, can you believe Russia sponsored that piece of shit? The whole world is worse off because Russia is a kleptocracy hell bent on making money off the suffering of humans.

I am glad you don't claim morality as it is very clear you can't pick between the lesser of evils in a given situation. That is modern life, it sucks. Get used to it.

Russia could give two shits about its people. The US might be the most murderous, but no one competes with Russia sacrificing its own people in war and in peacetime. Once again, garbage people in the government.

I don't think you are infected with propaganda, I know you are. Not even questioning that for a second bringing up every bullshit Russian talking point like it is the gospel of Jesus Fucking Christ.

I love the Russian people, they deserve far better than they get, but you wouldn't know it after talking to bozos like you. No country on Earth is worthy of humanity. Certainly not the US, China, or Russia. Three fascist nations that are all guilty as charged.

The problem with you is you are one not fucking bit objective. You have picked your stupid team. Now go lie in the flea ridden bed you have chosen.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah. Not a shred of rational thought left in you. Pure righteousness. I'm glad we had this conversation so that other people could see it. You're a lost cause.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Sure, go take your Russian propaganda and stick it all the way up your backside you fascist apologist.