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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What are you basing this on? It won't surprise me even slightly if studies show vaping is actually worse because everyone I know who vapes does it constantly, far far more than they ever smoked.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Numerous research papers I have studied. Before I started vaping more than 10 years ago.
The base for the juice was very thoroughly studied all the way back to the 50's, and was used to prevent infectious respiratory diseases in kindergartens, and is still used in asthma inhalers, and is also used as stage "smoke". So there are numerous uses of the vaping juice that are all considered perfectly safe.
The nicotine itself is not a carcinogen, so all that remains is the food grade flavors, that are most likely about as safe as the smell of a pot of tea.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The nicotine itself is not a carcinogen

Not that cancer is the only health risk worth mentioning, but I wouldn't count on this.

The IARC monograph has not included nicotine as a carcinogen. However there are various studies which show otherwise. We undertook this review to specifically evaluate the effects of nicotine on the various organ systems. A computer aided search of the Medline and PubMed database was done using a combination of the keywords. All the animal and human studies investigating only the role of nicotine were included. Nicotine poses several health hazards. There is an increased risk of cardiovascular, respiratory, gastrointestinal disorders. There is decreased immune response and it also poses ill impacts on the reproductive health. It affects the cell proliferation, oxidative stress, apoptosis, DNA mutation by various mechanisms which leads to cancer. It also affects the tumor proliferation and metastasis and causes resistance to chemo and radio therapeutic agents.

Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4363846/

Further, I wonder how anyone could possibly know for sure that inhaling the base product is safe. You need decades to know that AND to regulate the ingredients to be sure nothing bad is in there. I don't know the specifics on today's laws around the world, but I know this has been mostly unregulated for a while. And it wouldn't surprise me slightly if people are getting known bad ingredients in products shipped in from China or elsewhere.

Vaping is probably safer than cigarettes and I think that's about as far as you can honestly go right now.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The only concern i have is the flavors. Yes, they're "Generally Regarded As Safe" for eating. There's not been sufficient study on the long term effects of inhaling them in the fashion that a vape delivers.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, this and also, whatever happened to the age old advice "inhaling anything but clean air is bad for your health"? That doesn't vanish because you're replacing something which is worse for your health.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We know that inhaling tobacco smoke is bad for you, and we have a good idea of how bad and why, because science.

That same kind of science hasn't been done on vaping. The handful of studies I'm aware of have all been horribly designed. From a data standpoint, that makes vaping an unknown.

However.

The only major incident that's even vape-adjacent was when some knobs were putting Vit E acetate into bathtub THC cart refills. I'm not saying it's impossible that there are conditions that haven't yet been linked to vaping, but the more time passes, the more people who are vaping, and still no "epidemic" level of disease in relation? I know that absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but the people who holler about the dangers of vaping have never been able to demonstrate (to me) what those dangers are.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

the people who holler about the dangers of vaping

This is a mischaracterization of the conversations I've seen and been a part of. What people are trying to say is that no one should be assuming that because vaping seems safer that it is harmless.