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submitted 4 days ago by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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No bro this US war in the middle east will be completely different, bro. See, this time the regime we’re trying to get rid of is REALLY BAD!

No no, this is nothing like all those other times. This time military interventionism to topple an oil-rich government in west Asia will lead to peace and democracy. Our soldiers will be greeted as liberators!

You don’t understand, bro. This time the government and the media are telling us the truth! This time the regime really IS committing mass atrocities and they really ARE trying to build weapons of mass destruction.

I know you think this will be a disaster like all those other US military interventions in the region, but you see, unlike all those other times, this time there are many foreign policy analysts from highly respected think tanks and mass media outlets assuring us that it will go perfectly fine.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those country population will always be anti Israel there is always a chance that those regimes would be overthrown

Israel sold US military secrets to Russia and stole US nukes. Israel used to be British backed, then French backed, and now US backed. They are in no way a reliable military ally and we both know Israel will gladly switch sides to Russia or China if it ever becomes advantageous for them.

Middle eastern governments like Egypt don't simply get overthrown because of their population hating Israel (would also be easier if Israel didn't exist). Look at Egypt. The US instantly installed another puppet dictator and armed them to the brim. Same thing they do in every other Middle-Eastern country. It's all actual puppets which actually listen to the US. In contrast to Israel which doesn't care about what the US says.

The USA never cared about protecting the region the middle east. The USA strategy is ruling though chaos

Which is done through Wahabi groups from Saudi and the UAE which create ISIS offshoots. Not by Israel.

Even the major wars (which are often instigated by Israel) are not fought by Israel. See Iraq, Libya, and now Iran. What is Israel contributing here? America and NATO are fighting these wars. Israel was in no way necessary. The only thing Israel "contributes" here is blackmail and lobbying to get the US to bomb Iran. For... Israel.

Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon make a lot of money from Israel. For the $3.8 billion base grant in 2026, Israel is only permitted to spend roughly $250 million domestically Your link confirm what I said Israel’s armaments independence being a goal means that right now it is not

Ukraine got $188 billion already. Israel is peanuts compared to Ukraine. Israel also has an arms industry which is competing with the US and taking their contracts.

The USA policy was always letting Israel expands settlements discreetly. What I am talking about is official annexation which would mean the PA will be abolished and israel would declare sovereignty on the whole area.

Yeah they basically did that.

There will always be minor advantages for the USA to point to but in reality all the signs point to Israel and AIPAC controlling US politicians to do Israel's bidding when it comes to middle-eastern foreign policy.

I recommend this GDF video on the matter, I've timestamped it on an interesting point but the entire thing is worth a watch https://youtu.be/1ox-DzSF7Tg?t=1641

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Middle eastern governments like Egypt don’t simply get overthrown because of their population hating Israel

It happened once it could happen another time. Even if the chance is 0.1% it is worth to take the threat seriously

Which is done through Wahabi groups from Saudi and the UAE which create ISIS offshoots. Not by Israel.

Who did more damage to the middle east countries Israel or ISIS? Israel. The USA use Israel to cause chaos and with that chaos serve both terrorist countries interests.

Like I already say the middle east was always the most important region in geopolitics. Controlling the middle east in long term is the most power thing an imperialist power control

Even the major wars (which are often instigated by Israel) are not fought by Israel.

Still the USA participated in the war for their own interests which by default help Israel but it's not Israel saying if you don't do this we will do really bad things to you . Don't think that Iran will not still attack Israel if the USA decide to go to war , they are not as safe as you thing

Ukraine got $188 billion already. Israel is peanuts compared to Ukraine. Israel also has an arms industry which is competing with the US and taking their contracts.

Like I already told you. A capitalist always want more and more. Like I also said backed by a source most of Israel arms industry is joint venture between the USA and Israel.

Jason Hickel: Why a Liberated Palestine Threatens Global Capitalism

Yeah they basically did that.

So it has nothing to do with the Epstein files. Israel definitely do not want all Epstein files unredacted to be released. If any it is trump who could use Epstein against Israel in the case of I am done I will drag you to hell with me

Anyway even if we assume all wars are really to support Israel the USA and Americans are responsible for what they vote for and done , the unwillingness to change their centuries old pathetic system and has systematic plan to committing war crimes