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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Which makes sense since the base is relatively close to a sugar-alcohol. But that would probably be per gram.
So if you vape 2 ml per day (moderate use), and compare that to drinking 1 beer per day (also moderate use). The beer is 33cl of 4.5% alcohol (vol) = 15ml alcohol in one beer, or 10.5 grams, where 10 grams is 1 standard drink.

So by that measure vaping 2 ml is 1/7th as likely to cause cancer as drinking 1 beer.
I personally stopped vaping a few years ago, after being a heavy smoker for many years. The maximum I ever vaped was less than 5 ml per day as a former heavy smoker.

In EU we have limits on how powerful the vape can be, and how big the tanks can be. So I doubt many of those girls even vape 2ml per day.
Apart from the dependency on nicotine, it is mostly harmless.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In EU we have limits on how powerful the vape can be, and how big the tanks can be.

It's unfortunately trivially easy to buy completely unregulated health hazards from china.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I know those are frequently confiscated here, but when I vaped, most the equipment was made in China anyway, and the highest quality brands were also from China.
Puff bars are apparently exceedingly popular, but to me it seems like a giant waste, I personally mixed my own juices from pure pharmaceutical quality PG and nicotine, and buying the best vaporizers and tanks from China. But that is next to impossible today, which I suppose is a part of why puff bars have become so popular.
IMO the EU regulation is a bit heavy handed, but I suppose it does prevent extreme use to some extend, personally I'm happy I could use vaping as a means to get rid of my addiction, where several attempts before vaping had failed.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Your logic on comparing propyleneglycol with ethanol and it causing cancer is just jank. Also so far there are no studies that say vaping under normal conditions causes cancer. Rather if vapes that are set wrongly, heating the mixture too much that it forms chemical byproducts like formaldehyde, then a risk of cancer may be present, since for example formaldehyde is a proven carcinogen. However such overheating will also cause injury to the user such as throat and lung injury, which is highly unpleasant and will cause a user to exert more caution.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Your logic on comparing propyleneglycol with ethanol and it causing cancer is just jank.

Yes because Alcohol is an actual carcinogen propyleneglycol is not. I was just giving the previous commenter the benefit of the doubt, and showing the scale.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

if vapes that are set wrongly, heating the mixture too much that it forms chemical byproducts like formaldehyde,

That causes dry puffs, and taste so bad that nobody would vape that. The only research papers I have seen warning about formaldehyde were fucking rigged. On paper measured the formaldehyde in a small room, and the levels they measured were consistrent with the amount of formaldehyde we exhale ourselves without vaping. Another that created dry puffs was measured by a machine doing the overheated "vaping", that no human would ever do.
Again these compounds have been found to be very safe for many decades, to a degree they have even been used in kindergartens to prevent respiratory disease, in asthma inhalers and in stage smoke machines.