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Matrix hosting (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 day ago by bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Hey y'all, this actually isn't self hosting related, but who have you had good luck with for paid matrix hosting?

Right now, I do enough tinkering with everything that I would be willing to just pay to host a matrix server for my friends.

Unless it really is easy enough to do it on a synology nas for text/voice/screen share...but do I need to pay for a domain still?

We are (like everyone) on matrix.org now but realize we need to move eventually.

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[–] stratself 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

We are (like everyone) on matrix.org now but realize we need to move eventually.

Consider moving to another open registration server too. Find one that supports Element Call

do I need to pay for a domain still?

If you're gonna selfhost, you should purchase a domain for proper federation with the wider network. IP-only servers are possible, but they are generally banned in most rooms due to antispam. Same with dynamic DNS domains

Unless it really is easy enough to do it on a synology nas for text/voice/screen share...

You'll need to integrate a Matrix homeserver (I recommend Continuwuity.org, much lighter than Synapse) and Livekit (the software that handle Element Calls). It's not particularly easy so maybe consider managed hosting beforehand, too

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

If you're Canadian, you can get free and cheap .ca domains https://www.cira.ca/en/why-choose-ca/

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The issue with moving all the time is my friends will be annoyed. Can we move without making new accounts and rooms again? They'll ask why are we changing it again...you know how it is

[–] stratself 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The easy solution is to choose someone other than matrix.org, get everyone over there, and hope it works out in the long run

The technical answer is that if you own your domain name you can migrate from a managed solution to a selfhosted one with some caveats. If you can't migrate the database, then some data will be lost (namely, unfederated rooms and local-only data) and your friends will likely need to do a few things (reset their passwords, and export/reimport their encryption keys). Unfortunately there are no database migrator between different server software right now

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I see.

The problem is now my friends will be stuck on matrix.org 😬