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So, what exactly is your plan for the 2026 election?
How exactly are you going to counter Trump?
Be specific and provide as many details as possible.
Fuck elections. General strike until our demands are met.
Hold their precious 'economy' hostage while we still can -- before they replace us all with robots.
Nice idea.
Now provide the details of how you do it.
It's easy to say things, not that easy to make them happen.
1: Gather a group of people. (I've got a few, need a lot more.)
2: Come up with a list of demands those people can mostly agree on. (I've got ideas, of course, but so does everybody. It's not my place to unilaterally decide what the strike's demands will be.)
3: Mutual aid networks to assist people who get fired from their jobs (or worse) in retaliation for participating in the strike. Build emergency caches of food, household essentials, arms, and medical supplies. Organize temporary shelter plans for anyone made homeless by participating in the strike. (I've got plenty of food to share if necessary, and I have a camper trailer in my back yard someone can stay in if necessary. And I've got a bunch of old lumber and building supplies I could slap together into some additional makeshift huts if really necessary -- they wouldn't have indoor plumbing, but they'd at least have a roof, walls, and heat. I could support 2 or 3 people easily. Maybe 5 to 10 in a pinch.)
4: Announce the strike. Begin withholding labor and minimizing all economic participation until the demands from Step 2 are met. (Not only refuse to sell your labor, but also refuse to buy anything, as much as possible. Also, for good measure, withdraw all your money from the bank so they can't collect interest on it.) (This does not mean that participants will 'do no work' and just sit around all day. You still have work -- supporting the strike. Work in a food kitchen to support those going hungry because they're on strike. Deliver food and supplies to strikers who can't make it to that kitchen. Build temporary shelters for strikers who need them. Provide security against the inevitable strike-busting violence. Etc.)
So, no actual organizations in place. No financing. No leadership.
It's not a plan, it's a wish list for Santa Claus.
So your detailed plan is to shit on people trying to make plans?
You can start working on mutual aid today. it's not a wish list, it's something you can actually incorporate into your life. At a bare minimum treat it like church and participate for at least a couple of hours a week.
Ive been involved with a group making free food for the community for eight years. This is going to be a generational struggle. You already think that it would take 50 years of Democratic super majorities to accomplish anything, what's a decade or two of working to build robust community organizations that would facilitate a general strike?
And the icing on the cake is you can still vote for your democratic super majority; mutual aid/community organizing and voting are not mutually exclusive although I have to say voting is a very passive activity you might do a couple times a year a most. Building community organizations and mutual aid networks is much more involved and takes diligence and continual effort.
There's no reason you can't do both. If you are serious about fixing this country we are going to need to do everything we possibly can and then sustain that effort until the job is done.
This is going to be a generational struggle.
Then we should also be planning for the 2026 elections...
Oh my goodness, you are one tracking on elections so hard. You ignore everything I say and circle right back around to voting. Alright I'll humor you.
Our plan for 2026 election:
-Vote in primary if applicable
-Vote in general
Great, super easy to get all of our planning done. It took all of five seconds and when it comes time to actually vote it will take less than an hour. I don't understand why we need to plan something this simple so far in advance but now we've got a plan.
Now that thats out of the way we can focus on more important things like finding ways to build more robust communities and serve our neighbors in need. The Democrats aren't coming to save anyone for literally years, there are hungry, unhoused, and unemployed people that need help now.
Do you even have a plan for what you will do if the Democrats don't win the election? What about if the Democrats win the election but still screw the working class? Are you going to wait 50 years to see if voting Democrat works or not before you try anything else? Given the Democrats performance over the past 50 years I'd say starting and stopping your political engagement at voting and electoralism is magical thinking, a hail Mary, all eggs in one basket, a recipe for disaster.
Say it with me, voting and mutual aid are not mutually exclusive. You can do both at the same time. Mutual aid/community organizing takes hard work on a regular basis while voting is a passive affair that takes a couple of hours a year at most. Of the two spending more of your focus and energy on the lower effort, passive option is a recipe for failure.
The GOP elected a dead pimp.
Here's the link. Read it several times.
https://apnews.com/article/dennis-hof-pimp-election-death-afd73fee87e5442ca72b7179c593089e
Did you read it? Do you understand?
Elections are what matters most.
You're going against people who will vote for the worst humans imaginable.
They got the Supreme Court because they vote in every election.
Whatever else you do doesn't matter if they can make it illegal.
It's meaningless unless you have a government that isn't trying to destroy you.
Financing corrupts, leadership is corruptible.
We need a bottom-up movement without that shit.
No leadership?
Read 'The Autobiography Of Malcolm X.'
He said that there's no achievement without leadership. even if it's only you, you have to discipline yourself.
A leader says you have to have leadership. Big fucking surprise there.
I say we don't need leadership. Leaders can be corrupted. Leaders can be assassinated.
Remind me again what happened to Malcom X.
Hmm, this is quite a conundrum.
Who should I heed? A man who literally transformed the thinking of millions of people or some rando on the internet who is completely unable to put forth any thing like a rational plan of action.
By your logic, no one should pay attention to Gandhi, MLK, Abe Lincoln, or Leon Trotsky.
Also, by your logic, no one should listen to you because if they did, they'd be following you.
Well ... yes.
I am an anarchist, after all.
I mean, look at the world around you right now. Look what became of your revered leaders in history. How's this whole following leaders thing working out for you so far? Why do you think it will be any different going forward?
Explain the paradox.
If you reject all leadership, you can't follow the teachings of the anarchists who came before you. Therefore you can't be an anarchist.
lol, Anarchism isn't about following teachings of others. That's completely optional. The entire point of Anarchism is to reject authority. It would be self-defeating if we set up prominent anarchists of the past as authority figures.
You can read their stuff and learn from them, if you want to. Learn from them, don't follow them. And that might help. But, again, completely optional.
You guys should do like the French, really. Revolt. Anything short of that won’t achieve shit.
LA GUILLOTINE I LONG FOR LA GUILLOTINE
How brave of you to volunteer other people to attack the barricades.
Your people are threatening to invade my neighbouring country. Americans made this mess. Americans get to fix it.
Don't worry.
Trump
Always
Chickens
Out
Trump isn’t the problem. Lop his head off and you’ll have achieved catharsis but it won’t be a solution to any problems. A lot more heads need to roll before anything is solved.
You can’t vote your way out of it because the system is built for those with money. You need to change the entire system and no one who is currently benefiting from that system will aid you in that.
You first.
I'm not American. Fix your own damned problems.
Nah, you're arguing in bad faith.
Don’t feed the sea lions
Satisfy my curiosity.
Exactly which words demonstrated by 'bad faith?'
It's your attitude and it's as obvious as a zit on your nose. Nobody here owes you anything, and you've been treated with kid gloves by some very kind, intelligent people. I am neither of those things. Sit down, shut up, listen, and maybe learn something.
So, what exactly is your plan for the 2026 election?
How exactly are you going to counter Trump?
Be specific and provide as many details as possible.
That's my original comment, the one that has you in such a tizzy.
I use a loaded word like 'tizzy' because what you wrote makes no objective sense.
I asked to hear a plan and was told that I was acting in 'bad faith.'
And now you tell me to 'listen'
Is there any point where I'll hear the plan?
Because I really want to hear this plan.
I'm not going to waste my breath re explaining what smart people already have. Read their comments, touch grass, and maybe go volunteer.
If there'd been an actual plan posted you'd have cut and pasted it to show me up.
And when you say 'waste my breath' it sounds like you need AI tech to transcribe your words because you can't figure out typing.
But I do agree with your original comment, where you say you aren't intelligent.
... some very kind, intelligent people. I am neither of those things.
That's quite a self own.
And you would have said it isn’t a plan it’s a wish list to Santa. So it would have been a waste. Get outta here.
So, freedom for the people who agree with you?
Where have I heard that song before?
That isn’t what I said tho. I just said what you said.
. Get outta here.
When did I say that?