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It’s really hard for me to differentiate the heyday Vertigo creator series like Sandman, Transmetropolitan, and 100 Bullets from similar euro comics. War Stories is incredibly close in idea and format to many BDs. At one point in time, Vertigo was a powerhouse that published good things, not repetitive DC/Marvel hero-of-the-week. I spent a fair amount of time composing my answer to compare and contrast with the euro comics I’ve read and other American things. Crusades isn’t Asterix or Thorgal but neither is The Incal and The Incal shares more with Crusades than Tintin does with The Incal. Right now I feel like you’re making sweeping generalizations when you mean very specific things; I don’t think that’s pompous just way too broad.
Well, keep in mind that both Sandman and Transmetropolitan had British writers, so they're just as much Euro comics to me. 100 Bullets, I checked out the first couple issues and felt like it was fairly clever and fairly quality gun culture media, but nevertheless still American-style gun culture media, and I'm just not interested in that. Overall, I've checked out some of Vertigo's stuff over the years, and just as with Image comics for example, there's just very little there that interests me, and no reason to spend any more of my time on such. It's as simple as that, really.
Those are all vastly different series, so I'm not really sure what your point is, there.
Fact is, and bottom line, I've put decades in to reading American fare, and only a few years truly checking out the breadth of Euro comics, much of that because my French wasn't good enough at the time. Now I intend to spend what years I have left (I'm middle-aged, with significant health problems) exploring Euro stuff and trying to share the best stuff I come across.
I maybe shouldn't have commented relatively negatively in my first thread reply, but I did get truly excited for a moment, thinking that perhaps an American publisher tackled something interesting like The Crusades, but instead it's just... whatever. Not something of any real interest to me.
Just to be clear, Euro comics certainly aren't sacred to me, and there's certainly plenty of stuff that's either weak, or doesn't interest me at all. But that's not the point.
You’re willing to grant that euro comics is broad but don’t seem to grant that anything else can be broad. I’m not here to sell you on American comics. I was irked you lumped a short line that has more in common with some great BDs than the DC superhero fare you keep trying to call it. If your contention is that Transmetropolitan is a euro because Ennis is Irish, does that mean everything that Ennis has written since 2016 or a few years before is American because he lives there now? But also if you just don’t like American publishers you can’t really say that Sandman is a euro because it’s a seminal Vertigo work and Vertigo is American. Again, the only issue is that you want to say anything Vertigo is bad because it’s DC but then you want to give a lot more flexibility to euros. I mentioned vastly different euros to emphasize you can’t paint things with a broad brush here. Your issue is you don’t like the content of this Crusades, not that it was published by Vertigo.
100 Bullets starts incredibly weird. The first line doesn’t really mesh with the rest of the world as it’s built. I totally understand why that would put someone off the series.
You know what... I'm going to take that as an invitation. By your tone, I feel like I'm being a bloody arse here, so let's have you recommend something here and now, something for me to read, or...
Or, maybe you take one of the many Euro comics I've scribed at my community, and see what you think? Btw-- Blacksad is cringeworthily American to me.
Hit me with something that's absolutely awesome and relatively unknown in the Euro sense. Chances are I know it well, but go ahead...
I’m actually a huge fan of the community and have been subbed since the beginning. I skim a lot of the stuff you share. That’s why I jumped on this thread. I think we like a lot of the same things. I really like a ton of the short Vertigo, Dark Horse, and Image stuff. I don’t get into the superhero lines because I don’t find the stories interesting.
If you can speed read through the first and possibly second story line of 100 Bullets, I think it gets way better and it’s one of my favorites. Like I said, I totally get where you’re coming from on those first issues and see why you might not want to continue.
East of West is probably the only newer thing I really like. You can see the Moebius influence. The story can kinda drag and there are some interesting choices.
I really haven’t read many comics in recent years. I’ve been rereading Tintin to share it with some young relatives. Groo, Usagi Yojimbo, and Hellboy are some other favorites.
I would love recommendations.