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I dunno man.
A small vehicle, that can rip along streets at similar speeds to mopeds and motor bikes?
I’m very in favour of wider adoption. But carte blanche for any kid or fuckhead to lobotomise themselves or others needs a second look.
The solution to the world's problems is less people not more people, if idiots want to lobotomize themselves by being a idiot on a scooter then that's all the better for society
At least you started your comment by making it clear that you don't know.
There are already clearly defined laws and definitions for ebike classes, which are distinct from mopeds and motorcycles.
Its not carte blanche or wild west or any other silly idiom.
The problem isn't ebikes. The problem is unlicensed electric motorcycles.
Ebikes are a good thing. They blow cars out of the water with how much much more environmentally friendly and cost effective they are. Requiring license plates and possibly insurance is a huge disincentive. Also pointed out by another user in this thread is that it enables the tracking of your location by all of these horrible flock cameras.
If kids are ripping along the streets on illegal electric motorcycles, what we need is law enforcement, not new laws targeted at those who already are following the existing law.
I agree with the spirit of your post. Entirely.
Yes, enforcement is certainly an issue.
However, here in Ontario any moped that has pedals is an e-bike, legally speaking. I’ve seen one with the most limp-twisted effort to qualify as a bike and be therefore street legal. But it still has all the qualities that cause me concern.
What we need is better classifications. A small standing e-scooter that can’t break 15kph shouldn’t be treated the same as a moped with pedals that can get 60kph.
Cool. You want the cops to start executing children on the streets for not obeying commands.
If they're driving a bike or any other type of vehicle including roller skates (exceptions can be made for non motorised wheelchairs with a medical certificate) on the sidewalk I very damn well do, yes.
Well, without the command thing. Or the shooting.
Just take them away quietly and dispose of them and their accursed wheeled contraption in as painful a way as possible somewhere where it won't bother civilised people, and fine and shame their parents or closest relatives.
Don't we all? /s
In seriousness, what you're pointing out is a problem but we're talking about two different things.
My main point is that we don't need a new law.
I believe you're saying that our police are horrible and that enforcing the existing law may end up brutalizing the population.
I think we agree.
You can get fucked up on a bicycle or skateboard too: Should they be forced to get plates?
Yes. Including passing a hard civics test, no retries. And keep them off the fucking sidewalks.
Bike registration is already required in a lot of places.
No. I don’t think so.
You can get fucked up walking. You can get fucked up standing still. You can get fucked up while asleep in your bed.
The difference is the risk of getting fucked up, being fucked up by someone else and the amount of fucking up a given tier of activity presents.
Because the weight and speed are so comparable...?
Yes
Are you trolling or being serious?
I'd take being hit by a kid on a skateboard over one on an e-bike any day... but you do you