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[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too

[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung

[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I'm a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Neither of those sources break down casualties by term. The idea that Afghanistan "slowed" seems to be entirely vibes-based and detached from reality - he escalated in both drone strikes and deployments, with the "troop surge."

Yes, Bush Sr. killed 100-200k, which is still considerably less than the war in Afghanistan. If roughly half the deaths in Afghanistan were under Obama, then that would put him about on par with Bush Sr.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The graphs show that Afghanistan casualties were flat

https://www.statista.com/chart/20932/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-in-last-decade/?srsltid=AfmBOorw0E6-ZCL-OnLzljFLq8mSXw1D0XIQXn7QXZNhCI0sDTcuXFhm

It's of particular interest that there is no data until 2009. Bush had made everything about the war secret and didn't collect or release numbers. Do you really think the initial invasion which included all of NATO had less casualties?

. If roughly half the deaths in Afghanistan were under Obama,

The data shows ~6k per year which is 48k over 8 years.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Bro it's always a losing battle to talk with "leftists" who think they're doing a good thing by not voting. They find the most specific and inconsequential shit in the grand scheme of things and just harp on it. Your original comment is gold.