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‘Privacy Nightmare on Wheels’: Every Car Brand Reviewed By Mozilla — Including Ford, Volkswagen and Toyota — Flunks Privacy Test
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This kind of shit is what makes me not want an EV, that and I guess the ease of repair but that could change with proper regulation and resources. I'm all for EVs but my current relatively effecient ICE car doesn't spy on me and that's important as well.
It's got nothing to do with EVs.
It's all cars made in the last 6-8 years.
It sort of has something to do with EVs, in that it's hard to find EVs made before this was standard, so if you're looking for cars without it it's hard to find one that doesn't have an ICE engine.
(Where cars aren't avoidable, I do prefer they be electric, as, I'm sure, do many, but the privacy concerns are apparently very real.)
(Edit: hydrogen cars are indeed very neat and more environmentally friendly than electric cars, and in the most ideal scenario what unavoidable car/truck/van usage there was would be hydrogen-powered. It is not AFAIK practical for the average consumer at this time and requires substantial infrastructure updates which the individual consumer can't really do much about beyond lobbying reps, so when it comes down to an individual who does need a car weighing what kind of vehicle to buy, I think it is fair to say that electric cars are better than ICE for the environment but, due to being newer, have more privacy concerns than old ICE vehicles. Neither is as good on either criterion as being able to just go car-free, of course.)
If it makes you feel better, EVs aren't a real solution to the problems we face anyways, public transport was always the solution and EVs was a way to get consumers to keep focusing on individualism and consumerism to solve societal problems.
People do run BEVs themselves with solar panels
On the other hand, you'd need a mini electrolysis plant as well if you want to do that with Fuel Cells.
Also batteries can get recycled easily - especially in the future where decommissioned car batteries give the demand the economics of scale. Also Na-Ion batteries are on the horizon
Rural places and bigots will still need or want personal cars. Some things like a trades work van or delivery service will still need a car/truck. These might as well be developed as electric. EVs are not the solution to our transportation and environmental issues but they are part of it.
I am 100% in favor of density, non-car-centric urban development, active mobility and rock-solid public transit -- I am on this community for a reason, after all, and I further do not drive. But I acknowledge that there are some cases where cars are important for trade work, hauling, etc., as well as where buses are the better option for transit, and in those cases I believe that the vehicle should be electrified. It may only be like 5% of the solution, but it's a part of the solution nevertheless.
More of a tram person instead of buses for transit due to how much more comfortable of a ride it is. Everything else I fully agree with though
Open Source Electric vehicles here we come!
I generally prefer trams and light rail to buses, but buses do offer a lot of flexibility that can be useful in any transit system. I do think that right now they're often not given appropriate priority and used for routes that should be run by trams or light rail though.
EVs aren't the perfect solution. But they're less bad than ICE vehicles, and are a good interim measure unless/until public transport becomes more viable.
Don't let the best get in the way of the good enough for now.
Cars will always be the best choice for many many trips for many many kinds of people. Cities are most efficient but not everyone can be in one, and public transit doesn't work in farmland. We need both. EVs is a way to reduce the use of fossil fuels in transportation. We don't have time to wait to densify every city and build out good transit networks, that will take decades. EVs have real benefits today. It just sucks modern cars are nightmares.
Guess who drives the most in total.
And guess how much it can be reduced with good public transport.
Thats kinda my point. If my current car dies I'd like to replace it with an EV, but if even the ones used and 5 years old have this shit I'm not sure I'd want to compromise my privacy like that. My only options would likely be used plug in electric hybrids or early models of EVs that will likely need battery replacements/upgrades.
My car's old enough to vote.
How would it vote?
I'd bet it's all in on whoever supports more fossil fuels.
It's a Prius, fuckface.
It's a joke sensitive toes.
This kind of shit makes me want to build an EV using a kit.
The EV kit company I was looking at years ago stopped being a kit company and became Tesla :(
This makes me want open source community-made vehicles. Who else is with me on that?
Any recommendations? Not sarcasm, I genuinely wanna know.
Here's a documentary about folks who wanted to do just that. It's more difficult than you'd think.
https://youtu.be/i-OlOP0BQ_U
Thank you!