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[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too

[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung

[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I'm a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?

https://thebad.website/comic/coherent_ideology

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ideology is bullshit. Politics is primarily tribal, ideology is just a rationalization about why your tribe is better than the other tribe.

There are issues to be sure, but if you talk with someone about politics for 15 minutes you'll usually find all kinds of ways their ideology is inconsistent and hypocritical... unless you consider that they're just repeating the talking points their tribal leaders told them to say. The only consistency about politics is "my tribe good, other tribe is bad."

This comic exemplifies that. There's no actual issue being discussed, it's just green vs. orange. You're expected to agree with green, and hate orange. And have even more disdain for anyone that seeks compromise. Which green issues does the character agree with and which orange issues they agree with, there's no discussion on any kind of issue. Unquestioning loyalty to the tribe is consider good, considering any ideas from outside of the tribe is considered bad.

It's obvious to anyone outside the tribe how counterproductive it is to attack anyone that might consider ideas outside of the tribe. You cannot build a broad coalition needed to accomplish anything in this way. It's so painfully obvious. Even as the other tribe grows it's numbers by not being so judgemental, even as your tribe shrinks and is manipulated into helping the other tribe you don't notice because you've been conditioned by the tribe to never question tribe.

So what are you saying about being a loyal member of your tribe? You're just saying you don't actually want to think about the issues, you certainly don't want to discuss issues, and you don't want to be effective. You only want to prove your status to the other narcissistic people in your shrinking tribe.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Tl;Dr: "ideology is tribal bullshit!" I repeat to the fascist militarized police as they force me to dig a grave at gunpoint

Least politically educated comment I've seen all week, and that's saying a lot. "Ideology is bullshit" no it's not. Being able to rally together behind common ideals, with common concrete goals and concrete policies to achieve such goals is actually a good thing. "I have no ideology" is not what saved Europe from fascism in WW2, and you're not going to convince fascists not to shoot trans people just by telling them "give up your ideology".

Political ideologies should be discussed extensively, and they consistently are, it's literally the reason why leftist infighting is a thing. It's precisely the "apolitical centrists" who enable all the horrors of capitalism, saying "I have no ideology" is simply synonym with "I don't care if things remain as they are", and in the face of fascism and ecological disaster this is a horrible idea.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Least politically educated comment I've seen all week, and that's saying a lot.

But you fixed this by writing your comment.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could have saved yourself a few keystrokes by just typing "no u" instead

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

You could have spared us much more by refraining yourself from posting your comment, yet here we are.