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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why they gotta put taytay front and centre ?

There's heaps of other actually shitty wealthy people they could have put up there :|

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No one can earn a billion dollars without exploiting others.

Not a single goddamn person.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Does she have a fashion brand like Rihanna does? How the hell is she exploiting others by just bring a singer? I don't like her at all and find both her fans and haters cringe but I find this take weird.

Same for Jowling Kowling Rowling. She's a TERF cunt but she was also a writer once upon a time and made billions from movies and other things based on her books.

Earning that kind of wealth is not necessarily the problem. I think it is possible to accumulate it without exploiting anyone.

Keeping it, on the other hand, is a problem. Wealth carries obligations and to maintain that level of wealth requires a person to, at the minimum, remain apathetic to a lot of serious problems which they have the capacity to address.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How did Taytay exploit anyone? She sings and dances in front of people for a living

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the crew that set up her stages/audio etc.

you don't make billions by paying people their fair share

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Multiple reports confirmed that Swift distributed $197 million in bonuses to the people who worked on the tour, in addition to their regular pay. That total included a wide range of roles, from dancers and musicians to production crews and support staff.

https://creators.yahoo.com/lifestyle/story/taylor-swift-gifted-all-staff-and-crew-upwards-of-6-figures-each-as-a-thank-you-heres-how-much-the-eras-tour-staff-each-allegedly-got-080319122.html

I get the feeling you're 🫨 shaking right now at the thought of a billionaire who didn't really exploit anyone

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

And what about each of her many, many previous tours?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I guess we've finally found the first good billionaire then /s

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because she wakes up every morning and chooses to not solve homelessness. She could do it. Easily.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

edit: since im getting downvoted had no idea you were serious

firstly how is her not solving any number of endless issues exploiting someone?

secondly trillion dollar economies can’t solve homelessness, what dumb greenleft weekly article did you read that made you think she could?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

trillion dollar economies can’t solve homelessness,

They obviously could, they just won't, and people like you accept their excuses and even defend them, like you are doing now.

There is more than enough excess money in this country that we could easily give every single American citizen $1 million dollars. Sure, a lot of them would blow through it in 48 hours, but it would transform countless lives for the better, and supercharge the Economy like nothing in history.

But that would come at a loss of Control, and when you already have more money than you know what to do with, you start coveting things like power instead. They wouldn't miss the money, but they would miss the power of keeping people working at slave wages because they need the health care so badly. They don't want people paying off their bills, retiring early, starting a (competing) business, etc. They want these people scared of losing their jobs and going hungry or homeless, so they keep working and accept whatever bullshit is shoveled at them.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol...no...no we could not give every American 1mil and be fine....who taught you math, as they either sucked at teaching or you didn't pay attention.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really strong argument there. Thanks for contributing.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's literally a big part of your argument....that we could give everyone all 340 million people in the usa....1million dollars...which is so much money the entire worlds gdp wouldn't cover it. It's a silly discussion point.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Who said we were getting it from the government?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you got it from every billionaire and millionaire.

You do know what 340 million multiplied by 1million is right?

It's more money than has been printed in the history of the world.

I can't believe I'm having to even state this....

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 13 hours ago

Dude, you are so focused on an adjustable detail that you are completely missing the point. There is a number that will work. Covid stimulus checks proved that even a small amount of money can make huge difference in the economy, imagine what a substantial amount will make?

It doesn't even have to be all direct payments. Investing the money in universal health care alone would free up an incredible amount of household cash, especially if it also forgave ALL medical debt.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is more than enough excess money in this country that we could easily give every single American citizen $1 million dollars.

your could easily yes but this would also be silly (and not solve homelessness), you want to look up the neutrality of money

eg. if everyone got a million dollar’s inflation would explode, milk would inflate up to cost $5000 and you would be back to square one

you already got a minor taste of it during covid and voted in the current american president because it hurt so much apparently, i don’t know anyone seriously suggesting to ‘helicopter drop’ (see milton friedmens thought experiment) $1 million to everyone to solve homelessness

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speculation, but possible, but it doesn't have to be that way. We could easily institute regulations that would punish price gouging. You can't do it after a natural disaster, and you can't do it here. If you are caught raising your prices more than 5%, and you don't have corroborating evidence of your higher costs (supplier invoices, etc), then you're going to jail. Most businesses will comply with the law, and those that won't will stick out, and will be forced to go back to normal pricing.

And Covid is NOT your argument. The economy was supposed to crash during Covid, but it actually weathered it well, and some business actually thrived, like the delivery business. Door Dash, Instacart, etc. were all struggling, but they boomed during Covid, as many people used them for the first time. Amazon boomed, and other retailers like Walmart and Target, who had been trying to compete with Amazon, suddenly had plenty of new customers.

My mother lives in one of those active adult, 55+ communities, which are exactly the kind of places that don't like to use the new-fangled Internet doohickeys. But they all jumped on the delivery services, which they NEVER would have considered before, and they are still using them. They also got into mail-order like never before, and there is an army of delivery trucks weaving through the neighborhood all day.

The economy boomed during Covid, and even IMPROVED for some sectors, demonstrating that UBI can work, and giving money directly to consumers who will spend it, is much more stimulative to the economy than giving another massive tax break to a Sociopathic Oligarch.

Or we can continue with the mantra of the wealthy: Don't give it to the poor, the poor get all the breaks, it's not fair to us. Besides, they'll just spend it on petty stuff, like food and rent, instead of investing it wisely. Better to give it to the wealthy, who will handle the money responsibly, and not just spend it wildly.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Appreciate that you put effort into the post as most of the posts here are snarky one liners, I can't respond to it all so ultimately we're just going to have to agree to disagree

If you are caught raising your prices more than 5%, and you don’t have corroborating evidence of your higher costs (supplier invoices, etc), then you’re going to jail.

This doesn't make sense, costs for everything go up, everyone's throwing cash about, remember the farmer who milks the cow now has a million dollars, he now wants to buy a house/car/all the things he couldn't afford before, demand goes up, there's the same amount of supply = price goes up, lambo's cost 250k? when 20 million people order them, not enough supply, the price goes up to 2 million, this is basically the whole reason we had worldwide inflation after covid, whole lotta stimulus, not enough supply

The economy boomed during Covid

Yes and no, as you said some areas boomed however the after effects hurt a lot apparently:

Trump won voters who prioritized economy and immigration

https://abcnews.com/538/voters-chose-trump/story?id=115827243

and even IMPROVED for some sectors, demonstrating that UBI can work

Giving the poorest a temporary increase in money != UBI

Or we can continue with the mantra of the wealthy: Don’t give it to the poor, the poor get all the breaks

The poor get plenty of money across Europe and everywhere else not America

I think half the time I have to adjust my view because I'm not American

Anyway good post, last one from me

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

All I have to say is that of course prices are constantly increasing, but a 200% increase following something like a large distribution of money, would be an obvious red flag for gouging.

The point is that regulating the situation would keep most retailers in line, and the price gougers couldn't get away with it on a massive scale. That's what happened to college tuitions when the government made it easy to get college loans, but didn't regulate the cost of tuitions. So colleges cranked up their prices to force young people to take on a lifetime of debt as the price of admission to the POSSIBILITY of getting a decently paying job.

Now we have a growing economic time bomb in annually growing student debt that will eventually crash the economy, as people will no longer be able to afford literally ANYTHING they require for basic living, like a home or a car, or even food.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Well, I guess she is one of the most famous billionaires around? Also, so many things, like an army is fans willing to engage in this type of conversations, publicity, etc.