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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

AI is just a tool like anything else. What's the saying again? "AI doesn't kill people, capitalism kills people?

I do AI research for climate and other things and it's absolutely widely used for so many amazing things that objectively improve the world. It's the gross profit-above-all incentives that have ruined "AI" (in quotes because the general public sees AI as chatbots and funny pictures, when it's so much more).

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Are you talking about AI or LLM branded as LLM?

Actual AI is accurate and efficient because it is designed for specific tasks. Unlike LLM which is just fancy autocomplete.

[–] 8andage@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even llms are useful for coding, if you keep it in its auto complete lane instead of expecting it to think for you

Just don't pay a capitalist for it, a tiny, power efficient model that runs on your own pc is more than enough

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes technology can be useful but that doesn't make it "intelligent."

Seriously why are people still promoting auto-complete as "AI" at this point in time? It's laughable.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

instead of llm, slm! (small language model)

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LLMs are part of AI, so I think you're maybe confused. You can say anything is just fancy anything, that doesn't really hold any weight. You are familiar with autocomplete, so you try to contextualize LLMs in your narrow understanding of this tech. That's fine, but you should actually read up because the whole field is really neat.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Literally, LLMs are extensions of the techniques developed for autocomplete in phones. There's a direct lineage. Same fundamental mathematics under the hood, but given a humongous scope.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LLMs are extensions of the techniques developed for autocomplete in phones. There's a direct lineage

That's not true.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is this untrue? Generative pre-training is literally training the model to predict what might come next in a given text.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not what an LLM is. That's part of how it works, but it's not the whole process.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

They never claimed that it was the whole thing. Only that it was part of it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actual AI doesn't exist

FTFY.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

"intelligence" is not a very narrow term! imagenet classifiers are definitely intelligent in some way.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Unlike LLM which is just fancy autocomplete.

You might keep hearing people say this, but that doesn't make it true (and it isn't true).

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The quotes are because "AI" doesn't exist. There are many programs and algorithms being used in a variety of way. But none of them are "intelligent".

There is literally no intelligence in a climate model. It's just data + statistics + compute. Please stop participating in the pseudo-scientific grift.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The quotes are because "AI" doesn't exist. There are many programs and algorithms being used in a variety of way. But none of them are "intelligent".

And this is where you show your ignorance. You're using the colloquial definition for intelligence and applying incorrectly.

By definition, a worm has intelligence. The academic, or biological, definition of intelligence is the ability to make decisions based on a set of available information. It doesn't mean that something is "smart", which is how you're using it.

"Artificial Intelligence" is a specific definition we typically apply to an algorithm that's been modelled after the real world structure and behaviour of neurons and how they process signals. We take large amounts of data to train it and it "learns" and "remembers" those specific things. Then when we ask it to process new data it can make an "intelligent" decision on what comes next. That's how you use the word correctly.

Your ignorance didn't make you right.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

algorithm that’s been modelled after the real world structure and behaviour of neurons and how they process signals

Except the Neural Net model doesn't actually reproduce everything real, living neurons do. A mathematician in the 70s said, "hey what if this is how brains work?" He didn't actually study brains, he just put forward a model. It's a useful model. But it's also an extreme misrepresentation to say it approximates actual neurons.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A mathematician in the 70s said, "hey what if this is how brains work?"

If you really want to be pedantic, the modern concept of neural networks was invented decades prior.

But in either case, ANN do follow the basic concept of how neurons work. That's not even up for debate. Obviously biological neurons have way more going on, and there's even evidence for "warm" quantum processing happening within each neuron in the microtubules. But the feed-forward signal mechanism is real, and ANNs are based on that concept.

Except the Neural Net model doesn't actually reproduce everything real, living neurons do.

No idea what you're saying here. But if I had to guess, you're saying that "real brains, not artificial ones, create novel outputs". And if that is what you meant, then congrats, you said nothing of value. The discussion was never about biological vs artificial neural network quality.

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

here’s even evidence for “warm” quantum processing happening within each neuron in the microtubules

No.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

reproduce everything real, living neurons do.

is not a strict requirement for intelligence.

it’s also an extreme misrepresentation to say it approximates actual neurons.

well you're in luck, because i have seen a website counter to your claim!
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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol ok buddy you definitely know more than me

FWIW I think you're conflating AGI with AI, maybe learn up a little

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The term AGI had to be coined because the things they called AI weren't actually AI. Artificial Intelligence originates from science fiction. It has no strict definition in computer science!

Maybe you learn up a little. Go read Isaac Asimov

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol Again, you definitely know more than me

I always get such a kick reading comments from extremely overly confident people who know nothing about a topic that I'm an expert in, it's really just peak social media entertainment

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Please tell me you don't actually think "AGI" is possible.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

someone else: theoretically, it is! --sincerely, someone else.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

We have the term AGI because we sometimes want to communicate something more specific, and AI is too broad of a term.