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Lots of small improvements across the user experience, and opt-in search, make this an important release.

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[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

opt-in search

This is what I don't understand: When people mark a post as public and discoverable, meaning Google and Bing and such can already find and index it, why would one need to opt-in to making it available via Mastodon search? Isn't that what Unlisted is already for?

[-] petunia@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Google and Bing's crawlers can find and index Unlisted posts just as easily as any other.

Just because there are 3rd-party search engines that don't respect people's privacy, doesn't mean that a 1st party search engine should follow their example.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Which privacy when it comes to posts explicitly tagged as public?

[-] petunia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You're conflating tagging a post as public so that it is publicly accessible as being the same thing as consenting to being indexed in a search engine.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And why wouldn't this be the same thing? Public content is public content. 3rd party services can already access the posts.

[-] petunia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The lack of an ability to prevent someone from doing something to you, without compromises on your part, is not the same thing as being okay with it being done to you.

3rd party services can access the posts, because the authors marked them as publicly accessible.

Those same 3rd party services can also index the posts in a search engine, but this is only because there is no feasible technological barrier to prevent them from doing so. If such an imaginary technology did exist, it would have been deployed already.

In the mean time, we can only count on a social solution, which is to merely signal our objections to search engine indexing, in the hope that maybe a law could be drafted that uses that as precedent to make indexing without consent illegal.

Here's a question for you. Do you think it's okay for Google or whoever to install invisible cameras everywhere in public spaces, that were explicitly for the purpose of collecting data to develop a facial recognition model to search people without their consent? Public space is public space ...

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