You can still find matches on pc pretty easily, helps that there’s been no good successor other than the -tide games and people not into warhammer or 40k stuck to l4d(2)
I've been enjoying Back 4 Blood, despite all the deck building and cosmetics BS. I quite like the mechanic of finding new, more powerful guns as the run continues, as it encourages you to use gun classes you wouldn't normally consider and makes every model of every gun class viable. Which is great, because every gun has different personality and mechanics, even from the same class, so you really can have a different experience every time you play the same chapters.
Vermintide 2 is ok, but has even more of the cosmetics, loot boxes, and microtransactions. I like the medieval fantasy flavor setting, but I hate supporting GW, because they haven't released a complete game that didn't have $100+ of DLC to get basic features since Mordheim (that one only had 20$ of DLC, lol)
Tbf GW doesn’t make any of the video games, they just sell license rights to developers who make the games and do whatever they want to recoup that cost. GW probably should be more selective or have a heavier say in those games but they aren’t their games.
Now also tbf GWs business model for tabletop isn’t any better, they’ve been charging $60 for 5 little plastic soldiers for decades now so you can’t really say they’re a consumer friendly business
True, I know they're not developing the games themselves, but it seems like they encourage the microtransaction business model pretty strongly, since lots of developers that didn't used to follow that model jump on board when it's a GW property (I'm looking at you, Total War franchise).
Plus, like you said, I can't think of any tabletop companies that treat their fans worse than GW, so it's pretty par for the course with them.
Also compounded by Darktide being an unfinished mess. I might go back to it in a year or so but as it stands it's really just an unpolished cash grab. The only thing that was finished on launch was the cosmetics store which you can buy for real money and even they have a bunch of clipping issues.
I saw last night they unveiled class skill selection overhauls that looked promising. They’ve been trying to fix since release but yeah the clear cashgrab at the beginning was certainly frustrating
Honestly the best new coop shooter is deep rock galactic, fun game, many bugs to be shot, no monetization after buying (theres a free battlepass, but after the season the cosmetics get into normal loot drop, and supporter skin packs).
Ha ha this reminds me of a funny / not funny glitch that happened. Me and my friends were sneaking past a witch, being super stealth then one of the characters yells WIIIIITCH right next to her. Carnage.
Man I love L4D. That brings back memories.
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH
You can still find matches on pc pretty easily, helps that there’s been no good successor other than the -tide games and people not into warhammer or 40k stuck to l4d(2)
I've been enjoying Back 4 Blood, despite all the deck building and cosmetics BS. I quite like the mechanic of finding new, more powerful guns as the run continues, as it encourages you to use gun classes you wouldn't normally consider and makes every model of every gun class viable. Which is great, because every gun has different personality and mechanics, even from the same class, so you really can have a different experience every time you play the same chapters.
Vermintide 2 is ok, but has even more of the cosmetics, loot boxes, and microtransactions. I like the medieval fantasy flavor setting, but I hate supporting GW, because they haven't released a complete game that didn't have $100+ of DLC to get basic features since Mordheim (that one only had 20$ of DLC, lol)
Tbf GW doesn’t make any of the video games, they just sell license rights to developers who make the games and do whatever they want to recoup that cost. GW probably should be more selective or have a heavier say in those games but they aren’t their games.
Now also tbf GWs business model for tabletop isn’t any better, they’ve been charging $60 for 5 little plastic soldiers for decades now so you can’t really say they’re a consumer friendly business
True, I know they're not developing the games themselves, but it seems like they encourage the microtransaction business model pretty strongly, since lots of developers that didn't used to follow that model jump on board when it's a GW property (I'm looking at you, Total War franchise).
Plus, like you said, I can't think of any tabletop companies that treat their fans worse than GW, so it's pretty par for the course with them.
they also made classes in those game.
people like the arcade aspect of l4d.
Also compounded by Darktide being an unfinished mess. I might go back to it in a year or so but as it stands it's really just an unpolished cash grab. The only thing that was finished on launch was the cosmetics store which you can buy for real money and even they have a bunch of clipping issues.
I saw last night they unveiled class skill selection overhauls that looked promising. They’ve been trying to fix since release but yeah the clear cashgrab at the beginning was certainly frustrating
It’s a shame that such an awesome OST got wasted on that game.
Killing floor 1 was pretty cool
I thought about mentioning KF& KF2 but since they’re round based not run through this map point A to B based I didn’t
Honestly the best new coop shooter is deep rock galactic, fun game, many bugs to be shot, no monetization after buying (theres a free battlepass, but after the season the cosmetics get into normal loot drop, and supporter skin packs).
I do love me some DRG, rock and stone!
If you rock and stone, you are never alone!
Ha ha this reminds me of a funny / not funny glitch that happened. Me and my friends were sneaking past a witch, being super stealth then one of the characters yells WIIIIITCH right next to her. Carnage.
I was 13, found a way to spawn dozens of witches with the console command, haunted my dreams for weeks.
I HATE VANS