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As a European, I have to say that the libs in this example are right, because the US voting system is completely fucked with the electoral college, winner-takes-all and all that gerrymandering (and soon more).
So they either have to vote dem (however bad their candidate is) and then unfuck it, so they can do a real election afterwards, or violently install a leftist government and proper demicracy.
So, that's been the tactic for a bunch of decades now. How's that been going for the working class?
For a bunch of decades, they haven't been executed on the streets in broad daylight. How is it going now?
The problem with your logic though is you think it just started one day. We've been on this road for a while. Trump doesn't exist without Bill Clinton's deregulation spree. Donald Trump wouldn't nearly be this powerful without Obama's expansion of the surveillance state. Neoliberals have contributed to what we're seeing right now and it's important not to forget that. During the Bush Administration all the neoliberals voted for the Patriot Act which basically created everything that's killing people in the street right now.
Pretty fucking poorly, which is why I'm not crazy about the strategy we've been using for the past decades. You understand these events didn't just happen out of nowhere, right? They're a result of the things that happened before them.
The problem is the Democrats know this and have no intention to unfuck anything at all
Tried it voted Biden, who didn't want to leave power even while he was losing it occasionally. Eventually when he did stop running, it was Kamala who thought it would be better to court right.
Yup. The Democratic party leadership is either so inept that they think a strong economy is a replacement for social welfare at home and abroad or they're actively working to fill the same pockets as the right.
They (dem leadership) cave on these shutdowns because they got their PR and they're fine being fascist as the alternative would impact their bank account.
I hope I'm wrong this time, i would be so happy to be wrong, but it seems insane to expect the pattern to change under the same leadership.
LOL 'the leadership'
It's the whole Dem party, which is one asscheek of the uniparty that is the problem.
You people wil never learn.
Trying to 'fix' that party, trying to 'push it to the left' or whatever futile thing you undertake while it's working perfectly the way it's intended.
This already for centuries and a consistent history of screwing the people and serving their olligarchs.
Yet americans are incapable of thinking outside their box, don't know better and keep chasing rainbows.
Pathetic and sad.
"Dem leadership" is just accessible language for the libs. Otherwise they assume you didn't vote and scream at you for being the problem because the only solution is voting dem and anything else is helping the right.
It's language deliberately chosen to make a distinction between the party and leadership.
With the purpose of sneakily and falsely implying the party can be fixed with different leadership.
It is the same tactics used by Kibbuts Bernie the snake who invariably uses 'the Netanyahoo government' and not israel.
Falsely implying that when he's gone that genocider country will be a normal democracy.
He knows very well they have been mass-murdering Palestinians since the beginning and will continue after him.
Same as the Dems have always screwed their gullible voters and will continue doing so for as long as they exist.
Hey thanks for delaying Trump's second term those four years. I spent those four years helping My partner recover from its crippling disabilities and working on My career. I don't know if we're going to be in a financial place to get it out of the US before Trump sends ICE after trans disabled people and puts it in a concentration camp, but because of you we have a chance. Keep up the good work.
As a side note, do you think a GoFundMe to get it out of the country and to My country would get much traction?
You thought Copmala, with ther horrible record and from the same horrible party would be better?
What are you americans smoking?
Your 2 party system has been ridiculed even by Marx, that's how long you suckers have been falling for this shit.
Even now they can't wait to go back to it.
You all deserve what you get.
Sauce please.
The Civil War in France - Karl Marx
Nowhere do "politicians" form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics,....
....and nevertheless we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends -- and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it.
From 1870!, wake TF up and educate yourself americans!
Read more Marx!
Hate to be that guy, but those were two entirely different parties.
You hate to be that petty guy scavenging through my comments and following me around for a chance to put in a negative comment?
Right, fuck off
And no they weren't
I guess I should tag you so I notice, but I literally didn't even read your user name.
I just reply to what I feel like replying to. I guess this is a small site. I have never once looked at your comment history.
I don't even think about you bro. I promise you.
Sure, that's why you harrass me with BS on 3 different subjects in 2 days.
Piss off.
But we still have a two party system and the critique is still accurate.
the asshole is wrong
They literally didn't say that. They said Kamala is worse because she tried to "court the right." What is happening here? Are you all huffing lead paint? Where am I?
Oh wow, you voted TWICE and it didn't fix everything???
Logic would say that's the thing to do. But our lib party won't do anything with a win though. In fact the worse a GOP candidate is, the more permission our DNC feels they have to run a dumbass.