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BYD used the ad to offer buyers up to €10,000 ($11,800) to those who bought a car and traded in a vehicle with a wet timing belt. That just happens to describe the timing system used in Stellantis’ PureTech engines, which run belts through a constant oil bath. These engines have been at the center of several recalls and warranty extensions linked to long-term reliability issues.

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[–] dupelet_comments@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is it defamation if it's true?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously if it's true it is not defamation what I wrote was:

This can quickly become an issue of actual defamation.

This can be by context, for instance only mentioning bad aspects or anecdotal evidence.

Yes, but the ruling stated that they violated defamation rules, which implies defamation did happen.

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It will almost always be unfair and misleading, as it focus on features that disfavor the competition.

[–] dupelet_comments@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So if an ad were to make fun of how horrible Tesla's Full Self Driving feature is, that would be unfair and misleading? As opposed to the pain simple truth?

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can do as you please as a private person. If you are BYD, VW or Ford one has to play by the rules of the market.

[–] dupelet_comments@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The question was how is it defamation, you're giving a non-answer that's nothing more than a blatant appeal to authority.

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I am not the IAP nor the original comment author. But as far as I understand the rules, every comparative advertisement, that is saying competitor X is bad instead of our product Y is good, has the same problem: X can easily say that the selected feature is just one random pick of a range of features. They may retaliate with some other fact. That may also be factual true, let's say, BYD cars are build without union oversight.

And that starts a negative cycle. You can be in favour of that. It might be entertaining. But by the book that is not allowed to keep advertisement a little more civilized.

Whilst I'm not defending any advertisement at all, one can easily see what happens when it is allowed to talk about your enemies instead of what you provide. Just look at the logical end of this in form of the attack ads of the US political campaigns.

[–] dupelet_comments@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The question I was asking is, how is it defamation if it's true. You seem to have wandered off onto a tangent of what constitutes ethical / civilised advertising.

one can easily see what happens when it is allowed to talk about your enemies instead of what you provide. Just look at the logical end of this in form of the attack ads of the US political campaigns.

More countries than not allow comparative advertising, and the world is not ending. Why use politics as an inaccurate example when the majority of countries actually practice it to some extent?

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So if an ad were to make fun of how horrible Tesla's Full Self Driving feature is, that would be unfair and misleading? As opposed to the pain simple truth?

One thing can be true and still be unfair. A true thing can be misleading. The ruling exists to make the decision easier and make clearer what is allowed or not and what is good business practices:

"Truthfully and fair talking about your business opponent is hard, so let it be and talk about your own strength instead."

and the world is not ending.

We will see about that. ;⁠-⁠)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But it's neither unfair or misleading. Those belts are a known problem.

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the rules are there to prevent a slippery slope. Ads, which I personally oppose as a whole, can always state positive thinks about the own brand.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rules are there to protect a large corporation and keep them selling defective products to customers.

[–] QWho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

True. But BYD is also a very, very large corporation.