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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 27 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

uhhhhh... saying death to any country or group is inherently violent and extremist.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 1 points 2 hours ago

What gave me pause was this

Calling for the destruction of Israel must obviously mean you want to kill every last man, woman and child, rather than simply wanting to overthrow Netanyahu's genocidal fascist regime. Because [bad faith] reasons.

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I told them that it is not good to wish death on Israel or Palestine. Just because shitty people are in power, doesn't mean the populace has to suffer because of it. It doesn't matter which side.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 21 hours ago

that's also what i told them, but that was enough for them to consider me a zionist and ban me. for a group that larps on about how much they oppose campism they sure do use it a lot.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Travel writer Rick Steves recorded a taxi driver in Tehran exclaiming "Death to traffic!" in English, explaining that "when something frustrates us and we have no control over it, this is what we say". Steves compares the phrase to non-literal use of the word damn in American English.

There's definitely a cultural translation issue here

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Tehranian's talking about death to inanimate abstractions that must be interpreted figuratively have an excuse that competent English writers who understand coherent literal meanings do not. We don't use "death to" this way: the right word is "fuck", eg, "fuck traffic!", "fuck Israel!".

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago

i can get behind fuck israel

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

but they are literal.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Death to the Republican party!

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

yeah that too

even though i agree with it

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But I am saying death to the party, not members of the party. Calling for the Republican party to end doesn't mean that the members of the Republican party need to end.

'Death to Israel' is not the same as 'death to Israelis'.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No, you didn't. Death to X is always ambiguous and can refer to anything, that's why extremists use it. If you don't want people to interpret Death to X as violent extremism, then you need to specify

Like how you already specified.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So when you agreed to him saying the Republican Party, and before his clarification, which way were you interpreting it?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Violence

Fascists get no mercy