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[โ€“] lauha@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

V and W are most definitely not considered the same letter in Finnish. Phonetically they produce the same sound but it's not like people use V and W interchangeably. Besides, before the reform in 1800s the w was used for both v and u sounds.

[โ€“] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How do you pronounce the name "Wille"? How about "Ville"?

Or that singers family name, Wirtanen? Not the same as Virtanen?

Or, in which way do you pronounce the word "wero"? The same as "vero", or something different?

Can you give an example of a Finnish word with a "w" that is not pronounced the same as the Finnish "v"?

(Ja sori, tรคstรค tekstistรค tuli hyรถkkรครคvรคmpi kuin tarkoitin... Uudelleenkirjoittamiselle ei oikein ole aikaa, mรถh :( )

[โ€“] lauha@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

They are pronounced the same hence phonetically they are the same but they are not concodered the same letter. If they were the same, people would be unsure if words are written with v or w or use them interchangeably, which does not happen.

[โ€“] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 days ago

...which is why you sometimes see "Toni Virtanen", " Mika Valtari", etc.

I've met two Wilmas and both of them get their names written as Vilma.

People k ow that W is deprecated and V is used now instead, and then when they hear that sound, they write a "V". Just like you said.

Also, try reciting the alphabet. It ends "oo, pee, kuu, รคr, รคs, tee, uu, vee, รคks, yy, zeta, oo, รครค, รถรถ", right? Where is "kaksoisvee"?