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Unpopular opinion as a Persona fan: this is true (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 days ago by videogame@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

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I don't feel like explaining why, but, come on. You know.

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It feels more more closer to rural-peasantcore that explores the dynamics of capitalist mass production slowly consuming and threatening to reproletarianize the rural petite bourgeois and artisans, while touching on Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony and how from the material basis of capitalism the superstructure of capitalist culture grows and in turn reinforces itself into the daily lives of the people even out in the boonies.

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think you are giving far too much credit to a director who himself admits not knowing how to write women because he has no women friends or relationships.

HASHINO: When you make a true friend, it’s possible to meet up with them after ages of being out of touch, and still pick up exactly where you left off. Thinking about maxed Social Links in this way sounds about right.

THAT CERTAINLY MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. COME TO THIN OF IT, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN ONLY FORGE THAT KIND OF FRIENDSHIP WITH SOCIAL LINKS OF THE SAME GENDER. OPPOSITE GENDER SOCIAL LINKS WILL REVERSE QUICKLY. DOES THIS MEAN TRUE FRIENDSHIPS BETWEEN PEOPLE OF OPPOSITE GENDER DO NOT EXIST?

HASHINO: I’ve never successfully forged a true friendship with a girl in real life.

SOEJIMA: Neither have I.

HASHINO: I guess that means we couldn’t implement it into the game because we don’t know what it’s like. (laughs)

I like your conclusion here, it's fun for many reasons to retroactively fit themes and messages like this into works that do not deserve it (and believe me, Persona 4 does not deserve it), but I also think sometimes it is fine to call a spade a spade. Persona is a pretty reactionary series. It's fine to like it anyway. I don't. Nocturne and SMT4 are more subversive with their writing than any Persona game I've ever played, and Nocturne barely even has a narrative.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking out of my ass, my entire schema was me going made-it-the-fuck-up

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair to you I think you are still on to something, sort of! My wife reminded me that they do hammer it in pretty frequently that Big Business is coming and pushing out the local customs and culture of Inaba... I just think it's kinda low-hanging fruit anyway.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

It's more of a common observation one can make across rural regions in mixed economies around the world with regard to capitalist expansion into new markets erasing local peculiarities and subsume the formerly closed economic circuit into the wider world market and slowly erasing regional differences in favor of more profitable global cultural or economic trends.