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[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 38 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah persona 4 is one of the less debatable ones. The whole game is about accepting your assigned role in society. It's actually pretty shitty in a lot of ways, and if it weren't for it having interesting "Monster catcher rpg" battle mechanics and Persona 5 having a somewhat anti-status quo message, I'd probably hate the series tbh.

I don't understand how anyone could think the Fallout series is conservative though. The whole series makes fun of US cold war paranoia.

It's also very funny that most of these are just interactive US army recruitment ads, like Call of Duty.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Fallout is conservative coded. If you don't analyze the themes deeply, as a conservative wouldn't, you get a game markedly free of any liberal aestetic. You get multiple kinds of fascism you can join. A fundamental distrust of outgroups. Gun worship. Boomer music. I am pretty sure most the characters are white and male like in most video games but I can't be bothered to check.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

“conservative coded if you don’t analyze the themes deeply” is very generous. i feel like fallout is pretty blatant with its satire. conservatives just continue to be the least media literate people on earth and despite the games doing all but literally saying “we’re making fun of your dumb ass worldview” they still think its glorifying conservatives and capitalism

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 6 points 12 hours ago

Maybe. Don't we usually ironically appreciate their satire of us? They love fascism and hypocrisy so we really aren't hitting them hard when we make fun of them about it. They liked American history X. Satire is especially ineffective against them.

[–] videogame@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

From what I remember of playing New Vegas years ago it was pretty diverse

Edit: Actually never mind now that I think about it it probably was mostly just different looking white people

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

New Vegas, where you can take over as "benevolent" dictator, hand it all over to a capitalist that would make the monopoly man blush, "might makes right" historical cosplayer caesar, or the NCR which is effectively pre-trump america 2.0 spread way too thin (admittedly I'm not as familiar with all the issues of this group as people tend to accept them as the default "good guys" lol). It brought us the violently isolationist Boomers (the jokes write themselves) and the wonderful line "Degenerates like you belong on a cross".

That's all without going into the DLC.

Don't get me wrong, the game is great. But I can see a lot of people missing the criticisms and challenge to try and pick the least worst options who instead would see it as endorsement of their particular yuck.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago

The NCR in New Vegas is clearly a nation overtaken by oligarchs deteriorating because they are slowly hollowing out the wealth of the nation.

Their whole lore is being founded as a “commie” republic, but by the time of New Vegas the Brahmin Barons took over, because of the ~republic~ part of it.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Also the specific entry they chose is FO3 LMAO

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago

I could easily be wrong but it every big NPC I can think of is so.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

not to mention all the mysogyny of most japanese games like this.