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Why $700 could be a "death sentence" for the Steam Machine (arstechnica.com)

submitted 4 days ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz

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Article discusses the effect of rising hardware prices on the deck.

Some highlights:

How much worse has the pricing situation gotten for Valve since November? Superdata Research founder and SuperJoost newsletter author Joost van Dreunen suggested that the 512GB Steam Machine model would probably run $50 to $75 more than he expected when the Steam Machine was announced, and to expect a price “potentially $100+ above target” for the high-end 2TB model. That would mean a $599 to $629 price at the low-end and $849 to $899 for the high-end model, in his estimation.

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter agreed that, even with the additional component costs, Valve would likely “try to get it out at $599 or so for the 512GB version,” A starting price higher than that would mean “abysmal” sales, he added. “I think $700 is a death sentence and $1,000 is unsellable.”

I'd recommend reading the article though, it has a lot more of value than just those quotes. It goes on to talk about how the price increases will likely hurt valve more than traditional console makers, and how these increases will affect sales.

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[–] user_6282638282@sopuli.xyz 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I really don't understand the hand-wringing about the cost. I see comments all the time about how it's "DOA" at some price or another and it strikes me as someone projecting their own preferences and values, including the "analyst" quoted in the article.

As an outside observer you don't know a) Valve's goals; b) almost anyone else's preferences and values.

I say this as someone who enjoys gaming, won't ever buy a console and won't ever build a gaming rig. This product is perfect for me and I'd have to feel like Valve were purposely screwing me to not buy it. I may be a minority but I can't be alone.

[–] Unleaded8163@fedia.io 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm in a slightly different demographic, but am still really interested in the steam machine. I'd be happy building my own gaming rig, but:

Pricing out all that stuff, ordering it, building it is a lot of work, I'd want to see some benefit for that work,
After pricing it all out, maybe I look at a steam machine and decide it's a better deal.

Realistically, steam machines, consoles, and custom gaming rigs are all approximately the same hardware and the same market. If the price of the steam machine is going up, so is its competition.

[–] user_6282638282@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah I think that was my point about feeling like Valve is purposely screwing me. Microsoft showed with the Xbox Ally X that their appetite for hardware subsidies is waning (perhaps even their appetite for hardware at all).

Valve has a lot of goodwill with Steam Deck owners and I think if they price it at a number higher than any one person's expectations, that person is less likely to think it's Valve's fault, than if Sony were to do the same.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I may be a minority

That would be a problem.

[–] user_6282638282@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

See point a. Everyone is so capitalism-brained they assume every company's goal is to sell the maximum amount of product and anything less is abject failure. (Ok that's a bit of hyperbole.) But Valve is a weird company and we just don't know what their criteria for success is.

If they're aiming for a market the same size or larger than the Steam Deck, they will probably struggle at higher price points. But if they're look at 1-2M units? That could be doable with people like me. That's a relatively small portion of the gaming market, but might be enough for them to be worth it.