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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I am generally extremely pro workers right and pro environmental protection, but environmentalists really need look at the situation practically and holistically.

This article seems to suggest that it's impossible to mine ethically, and while I get that it causes inherent damage and destruction, the alternatives will cause more damage and destruction, just not here.

The sad reality of bill 5 is that environmental laws have been used to block infrastructure projects numerous times. And while local environmental concerns are obviously valid, in the real world that we live in, it is not obviously 'more ethical' to let them block the project so that it instead gets built in say Peru, or doesn't get built at all and we keep using fossil fuel infrastructure.

[–] el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I think another piece of the puzzle is making sure a sizeable chunk of the earnings from extraction projects are captured by the government and set aside for remediation, as well as in something akin to Norway's Soverign Wealth fund. It's a shame that we didn't end up in the same boat as Norway given how long we've been exploiting our oil sands. Money like that could be put to use solving all sorts of environmental problems.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Wholeheartedly agree.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

While I agree that those dynamics can exist, it doesn't have to be that way.

We could be saying to manufacturers "you are not allowed to sell products that contain materials or parts that are produced in ways that harm people and the environment in the following specific ways: ..."

and forming agreements with other countries and trading blocs (ideally through institutions like the UN) to that effect.

This stuff doesn't have to be a race to the bottom.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

No we cannot.

We literally need those minerals to build things like solar panels and electrical infrastructure that will let us transition away from fossil fuels.

There is no perfectly clean energy source, and we need energy to keep humans alive, healthy, and happy.