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Community members performing traffic stops in order to check for fascist paramilitary invaders. (Minneapolis, MN - date unknown) (cdn.social.linux.pizza)

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Consider the fact that police have co-opted the right and responsibility for community defense from the citizenry and hold that responsibility captive from us every day, so that they can abuse it only to divide, oppress, and disorganize us as a class. If a community of neighbors decide that they need a checkpoint to protect each other then they do, and the only reason that recalls cops in our heads is because for our whole lives cops are the only context we've had for anything that looks remotely like community defense.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago

Consider the fact that police have co-opted the right and responsibility for community defense from the citizenry and hold that responsibility captive from us every day, so that they can abuse it only to divide, oppress and disorganize us as a class.

I am very much considering that. That's both the reason why I don't immediately condemn non-cops doing it out of hand AND why I'm wary of what'll happen once they've been doing it long enough that they're used to it/it's been normalized.

Most cops started out working or lower middle class and betrayed their class to become the hired thugs of the rich. People starting to do cop type things with good intentions aren't always immune to the temptation to let it change them.

the only reason that recalls cops in our heads is because for our whole lives cops are the only context we've had for anything that looks remotely like the right to organization that they've stolen

Not really, no. There's myriad different ways to organize your community that isn't cop stuff like the car version of Stop & Frisk. What's that quote about using the master's tools to liberate ourselves not working?