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This post is lengthy but it carries a question I have been thinking about for a long time, thank you for opening it :]

Introduction

I will present a writedown of my thoughts on the topic, you may read it if you want to discuss my perspective. I'd be equally delighted to just read some thoughts or opinions from you.

My perspective

I'm at least questioning my current identity, however I'm often troubled by the problem stated in the title.

Gender Roles/Stereotypes

I consider gender roles outdated and problematic at least. This is possibly stemming from the fact, that I'm unhappy with the one assigned to me. In case I was too ambigous: I'm thinking about constructs including but not limited to:

  • Men should be strong, they may pursue technical interests.
  • Women are caring and supportive, their primary interests should be of a social nature. They care about looks and feels

I think these prejudices are actively harmful to non-conforming people, since they may be perceived as socially inept or weird (consider young adults/school).

Transgender Identity

On to the Trans Identity Part. I have gained the impression that transitioned people are doing their best to fulfill the roles and stereotypes assigned to their desired gender.

Conclusion

To me, it seems like efforts towards gender equality, and therefore the abolishment of stereotypes are clashing with trans peoples desire to fit in with society.

I see both sides, they have motivation I can understand, it feels like a conflict that cannot be resolved.

Thank you for sitting and reading through this, I'd be happy to discuss anything related.

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[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would not have asked this question anywhere if the focus had been whether cisgender people encourage the usage of two gender stereotypes.

But you did ask it somewhere, and you asked it about trans people, who aren't in a position to change it, but are unfairly burdened by it.

Surely you see how skipping over it for cis people "because it's obvious" to talk about trans people instead, is putting the focus and blame on the wrong group, whether that is your intention or not. Trans people can't fix it, and trans people are the most punished by it. There is no conflict, just trans people trying to live safely in a society that makes that hard.

I think these prejudices are actively harmful to non-conforming people, since they may be perceived as socially inept or weird (consider young adults/school).

That is a little confusing, because the premise of your post was about gender conforming trans people. Here, you're talking about the impact on non gender confirming trans folk though.

The crucially important thing is that trans people are punished however they perform gender.

It’s not my intention to vilify or blame trans people, whom you rightfully defend. I crafted this question with my mind set on the following: “If I were trans, would I be supporting gender stereotypes and/or how to avoid it”.

Yeah, I know you aren't coming from a place of ill intent.

And I know you're coming at this from the lens of someone questioning themselves. But like so many of us, you're struggling with things, because of a lifetime of transphobic baggage that shapes how you even think about yourself.

Here's the thing, if you're gender diverse, you're gender diverse already. It doesn't become true when you accept it, and it doesn't stop being true when you try and push it deeper. If you're gender diverse, you aren't "supporting stereotypes". In fact, if you express your identity to people in any way, society will go out of its way to punish you for diverging from its expected stereotypes.

Not sure where you read me blaming trans people for their own mistreatment

You are doing that, but I include you in the list of people you're impacting. And it's also something that so so so many of us do. It's the result of growing up surrounded by transphobia. We will do anything to undermine ourselves and talk ourselves out of being trans or gender diverse. Even if you're not gender diverse, the framework we exist in makes it really hard to work that out, because you punish yourself for even considering it, for even asking the questions.

And that's what this is. This is you, struggling with internal conflicts as you look inwards to your own identity, trying to find reasons why you shouldn't go further down this path, why in fact, it's easier to just suck it up and go back to the way things were. It's why you skipped over the impact cis folk have on this environment, and instead focused on gender diverse folk, because you're dealing with a lifelong pressure that makes you want to bias the outcome of your self reflection so that you don't find divergence and difficulty.

My advice to you, is to stop worrying about what your self reflection might find, and what it might mean, until after you've followed that path. If you're gender diverse, you're gender diverse already, and the important part is giving yourself permission to accept that possibility, rather than trying to focus on building barriers to the exploration. If you do find out you're gender diverse, then you can find a way of navigating that on your own terms, in a way that brings you peace and happiness. But find that answer first :)

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You are doing that, but I include you in the list of people you’re impacting. And it’s also something that so so so many of us do. It’s the result of growing up surrounded by transphobia. We will do anything to undermine ourselves and talk ourselves out of being trans or gender diverse. Even if you’re not gender diverse, the framework we exist in makes it really hard to work that out, because you punish yourself for even considering it, for even asking the questions.

In retrospect, my gender abolition was basically a cudgel I used to punish myself for my gender desires, a way to rationalize my gender as a violation of my politics and morality. And it makes a lot of sense in hindsight that the emotional need to repress my gender desires would need to find forms that didn't feel reactionary or transphobic, but instead felt feminist and egalitarian.

If you’re gender diverse, you’re gender diverse already, and the important part is giving yourself permission to accept that possibility, rather than trying to focus on building barriers to the exploration.

This is really great advice, and ultimately similar to what I found helpful for myself.

One rationalization or way of resolving the cognitive dissonance for me was to recognize that whatever moral problems I have with gender, trans people find themselves in a particularly difficult spot, and if there is anyone we are going to give a "pass" to for using gender, it should probably include trans people ... at some point it became clear my need to alleviate gender dysphoria was more directly morally important in terms of how it makes me a functioning and good person in my life, and how being a functioning and healthy person impacts other people in my life, than any theoretical and political argument about how participating in gender or using gender was immoral.

For me at least I also had special rules: I wouldn't have thought other trans women should be seen as immoral for feminizing the way I felt immoral for feminizing, for example. Recognizing I'm not special and I deserve what anyone else deserves was also important to helping me realize my rationalizations were irrational and designed to repress and punish more than they were about being a good person.