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Gatekeepers are the fucking worst. Every time I start reading up on something there's always a handful of miserable condescending shitheads being nasty to people because they're 'not 'doing it right.'
Most vegan threads I come across usually has some of these, insulting anyone that's not 100% on board even if they're trying to get into it. Audiophiles are pretty much on the same level as hardcore vegans when it comes to being obnoxious (recently saw someone ask why the op was bothering setting up a music system if they didn't have thousands of dollars to spare, for example). Linux users on support threads is a coin flip of whether they'll be helpful or insulting.
Let people ease into things, stop demanding perfection right out of the gates!
I think that knowing the definition of veganism is the bare minimum. Gatekeeping is one thing, but you should at least know what the thing you're trying to join is. If you've done zero research, that's on you.
What I would say to folks is that they should do whatever they want. If they want to eat a 99% plant based diet, then they should do that.
It’s not gatekeeping to say that you aren’t vegan if you eat bacon, but at the same time, veganism is more about ideology than diet.
I think I understand the complaint. It’s shitty when a word with a clear definition gets literally co-opted by the masses. Then you have to go find a new word for something that was already solved.
That being said, I’d rather we dilute the term vegan if it means getting more people to eat less meat. You can invent new words faster than you can convert people.
Why is it that when libs talk about "imperfection" it seemingly is about mass murder? This is how they tried to sell genocide joe, then bomber harris, and now this treatbrained bullshit.
Honestly, most of the mid-range PC motherboards give a good enough sound output that one won't require a separate cheap music system unless they want to disturb the neighbours.
I make do with my monitors' speakers, which are pretty cheap. And when I care about sound quality, just use my headphones (which is the only audio thing I put a lot of money on) and having higher fidelity room speakers won't even help me due to the traffic noise all day.
Monitor speakers are so awful, you can get a big improvement by spending $20 on a set of cheap PC speakers, which you can improve on more with a $100 soundbar.
Just due to the nature of how sound works, you need at least a certain amount of space for your divers and monitors are optimized to take up as little space as possible (over the screen itself). A lot of monitor speakers don't even drive the sound towards you and sound like whatever is playing was recorded in a tin can.
Drive the speakers from your motherboard, you're right that it can handle outputting signals that most people couldn't even tell the difference between that and an expensive sound system (and those who say they can would surprise me if they could consistently do so in a blind test), but going from monitor speakers to dedicated speakers is one of the cheapest and most effective upgrades you can do with a PC IMO.
As I said, when I care about sound, I would just use my expensive headphones.
Just for hearing notification sounds and normal speech, with no particular musical requirements, monitor speakers are good enough.
And I have actually seen some sound systems that are worse than my current monitor speakers (although I can't say why, considering they were other people's setups). I even have the old SoundBlaster desktop speakers lying around somewhere and don't consider them worth the effort.
Similarly, laptop speakers work well enough for non-music purposes too.