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The F-35 is a poison pill for Canadian defence sovereignty against a hostile America. We cannot win against an invasion, but with the Gripen we can make it a phyrric victory for them.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know what he’s talking about: not against American pilots, but as make-believe American pilots.

Which is a good idea, but not perfect: American pilots will have noticeably different behaviours and tactics, and even personality types that are (generally) not found up here. While training against other Canadians in an F-35 is great, it’s not as good as training against Americans in an F-35.

But that’s the trick - how do we get America, using F-35 aircraft, to help us to train up our Gripen pilots?

And when our original order of 88 or so F-35 planes could, if completely cancelled and on a per-dollar basis, buy 420 Gripens straight from Europe, how do we get America to unknowingly train up so many Gripen pilots?

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, I mean I think the US can remote disable the plane

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not sure that’s a confirmed thing but Trump did make the threat last year, so 🤷

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

They aren't proving they can't because they refuse to give us the code. We have to assume they can.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, I am missing it I guess?

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if you only use them in training. At worst you can't train, but it doesn't stop you from responding to an actual military situation.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago

Pretty expensive training cost for the benefit.

Especially since, as Ukraine has shown, buying swarms of little drones can make expensive airplanes like the F-35 a non-factor.

I'm not Canadian, but as someone who doesn't like the US military, I'd advise you to cancel your contracts with the US, and buy lots of drones from China and Turkey, while you ramp up your local capacity to build them. Let the Americans choke on their own military contractor welfare.