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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Actual functional software would be nice

you do not want software on your TV.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes I do. I want an actual smart TV with a practical, open source, TV-optimitzed Linux OS. It's not that software on a TV is a bad idea in itself. It's how it's ruined by for-profit companies.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, honestly, I think stuffing an entire computer inside a monitor and relying on it to generate/show content is a bad idea no matter what software it runs. A dumb TV + a small computing dongle requires only a tiny fraction more labor to produce than a smart TV, but it's so much easier to upgrade in the future if you decide you need faster boot times or wanna game on the TV, etc. And if the TV breaks before the dongle does, you can also buy a new TV and keep all your settings/media without transferring anything.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also to add to this, the life-cycle of a TV display is mismatched from the live-cycle of media playing hardware or just hardware for general computing: one needs to update the latter more often in order to keep up with things like new video codecs (as for performance those things are actually implemented in hardware) as well as more in general to be capable of running newer software with decent performance.

I've actually had a separate media box for my TV for over a decade and in my experience you go through 3 or 4 media boxes for every time you change TVs, partly because of new video codes coming out and partly because the computing hardware for those things is usually on the low-end so newer software won't run as well. In fact I eventually settled down on having a generic Mini-PC with Linux and Kodi as my media box (which is pretty much the same to use in your living room as a dedicated media box since you can get a wireless remote for it, so no need for a keyboard or mouse to play films) and it doubles down as a server on the background (remotely managed via ssh), something which wouldn't at all be possible with computing hardware integrated in the TV.

In summary, having the computing stuff separate from the TV is cheaper and less frustrating (you don't need to endure slow software after a few years because the hardware is part of an expensive TV that you don't want to throw out), as well as giving you far more options to do whatever you want (lets just say that if your network connected media box is enshittified, it's pretty cheap to replace it or even go the way I went and replace it with a system you fully control)

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, yes and no. I like e-arc, and I like being able to adjust settings other than v-hold. But I don't want this slow crud fest that keeps telling me when my neighbour turns on Bluetooth on their iphone.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like e-arc,

... the audio hdmi thing?

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, all my inputs go to the tv, then i run a wire to the receiver. This makes it so my ps5 and PC are plugged directly to the tv so i can get different resolutions are variable refresh rate and the tv can control the receiver. So when I turn something on, the tv/receiver turn on and set themselves to matching settings, Dolby, stereo, whatever. Its not huge but its a nice convinienice over the older optical connection.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I want software on my TV.

Steam Link specifically. I like streaming to my TV via Ethernet.

[–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can do that with a Raspberry Pi for <$100 and without the need to have Amazon/Google/Roku/whoever tf else collecting your data.

[–] kinship@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really? Is there a name for finding guides to such wizardry?

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who says I let Amazon/Google/Roku/whoeverTfElse collect my data?

I have my TV isolated to its own network and allow inputs from LAN, so i can use Steam Link and Jellyfin just fine.

[–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool. Who owns the OS on the TV or the app store where you downloaded JF and SL?

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didnt download Jellyfin or steamlink through an app store. I loaded the .apk onto a USB, plugged it in, and sideloaded it lol.

Any other 'gotcha's?

[–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like an unnecessary amount of extra work to avoid being spied on by the spyware TV that you bought. You do you, though bud.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

an unnecessary amount of extra work

As opposed to buying, flashing, then installing a raspberry pi? Lol

Edit: using mod powers to censor me calling out your poor behaviour is also poor behaviour. Be better.

[–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly? It's not that far off, with a much better pay off. But like I said, you do you. You wanna die on the smartTV hill for whatever reason, go for it lmao

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So get a device that can do that. You didn't need a piece of software that will never see an update to do this.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's funny that you think smart TVs don't receive updates. It's got a wifi chip for a reason.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tvs can last 20 years you'll be lucky to get 2 years of updates

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My TV isn't going to update because it's been lobotomized.