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The losses of Germany on the eastern front are widely believed to be the most significant factor in defeating Nazi Germany and the USSR won the battle of Berlin, the final battle before the German capitulation. Thus Europe widely believed (for a good reason) that the USSR was the main contributor in defeating Germany. With the cold war the perception of the USSR became a lot worse in western countries like France and with increasing anti-USSR sentiment the view flipped to viewing the USA as the deciding factor. The USSR (and the Russian Federation today, even if its government is very anti USSR) viewed itself as the most important force in defeating Germany, especially because the USSR had the biggest amount of deaths. It is worth noting that the USSR was at least commercially allied with Nazi Germany until June 22, 1941 and there was an agreement between the nations on which parts of Europe each could invade and which where reserved for the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_World_War_II

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[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

For its many mistakes, the USSR didn’t pillage the resources of any cou

Oh boy.

Poland was conquered by USSR against their will (well. More like betrayed by British and given to USSR)

Looting and plundering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looting_of_Poland_in_World_War_II#%3A%7E%3Atext=The+looting+of+Polish+cultural%2Cworld+and+returned+to+Poland.

Industrial plunder is confirmed by then internal notes and memos, that the Poland under occupation later tried to use to convince USSR to stop because they already plundered a lot, so it's not a CIA propaganda or smthing in case you're wondering.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Notice my comment specifically mentioning post-1955. Poland was made to pay reparations to the USSR because of the lives lost saving Poland, which is debatable, this was stopped after the mid 50s

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Your comment started with

For its many mistakes, the USSR didn’t pillage the resources of any country,

I showed you're wrong. Instead of saying "oops, you're right, my bad", you're shifting the goal and trying to... word vomit? I don't think there's any value in talking to you then. But then you wrote this

Poland was made to pay reparations to the USSR because of the lives lost saving Poland,

... The fuck? Invaded country paying reparations? Do you hear yourself you imperialist scum? If you ever visit Poland, ping me, me and my boys are gonna fuck you up for saying that. Do hurry though before the veteran boys will die of old age.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you ever visit Poland, ping me, me and my boys are gonna fuck you up

Hope you get banned for that, but I'm glad you resort to violence when confronted with evidence, classic right wing nationalist

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

What evidence? You haven't gave a bit of that?

Do you also tell Gazan that they need to pay reparations to Izrael, or Ukrainians to Russia?

Nevermind, I'm blocking you.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Poland was conquered by USSR against their will (well. More like betrayed by British and given to USSR)

Betrayed or at least with their blessing. The Curzon Line, which was the Entente plan after WW1, was reaffirmed before and after the German invasion. The territory Poland annexed in 1921 was effectively 'returned' to the USSR.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Considering that one British MP resigned saying he cannot stand that shameful betrayal and the British internal propaganda surrounding that decision, the word "betrayal" fits like a glove.

In their memoirs (from a non-public meeting Churchill ordered to explain this to the MPs), some MP wrote that Churchill argued on country being tired of war, and that they have 100k (or 300k, I don't remember) young Polish men that can repopulate the villages - why would they let them go.

God I hate that old racist.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago

The twelfth cocktail by lunch and everything was a fight on the beaches for Churchill.