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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 11 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, yeah, being required to do something or else you'll be starving and homeless is pretty fucked up and worthy of a day being ruined.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There's never been a point in human history where that hasn't been the case for most people.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

But at no point have we ever been so detached from the means of production. Growing food has a different feeling than sitting in an office.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 minutes ago

You're heavily romanticizing agricultural work if you think it feels better than sitting in an office.

I get it, cube farms swallow your soul. But if it wasn't more comfortable, then more people would be out in the fields growing crops and those jobs wouldn't all be outsourced to migrant laborers.

The real travesty is the appropriation of the surplus value of labor, which results from the alienation of the means of production.

The tragedy of the commons isn't that we're no longer out there doing subsistance farming. It's that corporations and private equity own everything, so the people doing the labor to produce can hardly afford to consume.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Its not fucked up at all. You'll (the average person not someone with a disability preventing them from working) will always need to do something. Even welfare systems require you to do something or be kicked off.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

plenty of countries have welfare systems that don't require anything to use, the incredibly small amount of "parasites" that will abuse these systems are essentially a rounding error.

most people actually don't mind working jobs, if it atleast feels like it's their own choice to work it

as a whole the US spends more time/resources trying to punish poor people than it would cost just to allow some poor people to abuse the system

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago

Yeah i dont think a lot of people appreciate that its by coercion.