Note: Billy has a much better chance of survival due to his skin color.
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That's a wildly optimistic take. ICE will kill you, whether you're obeying them or not.
You gotta obey while being maced and beaten by 5 cops. And you have less than 30 seconds to do so.
And they might just ask "does he have a gun?" "Wait - does he have a gun?!" "DOES HE HAVE A GUN?!" until they shoot you 10 times just to be able to look and say "nope."
They gave you a whole 30 seconds to comply. You’re basically asking to get shot.
Hey, they may also shout conflicting orders so they have justification for murdering you, because you didn't stand with your hands on your head while getting on the ground
That's how clean shoots happen
Simon didn't say put your hands up.....BANG
ICE isn't police though
Yes, they are and so is the Border Patrol.
No, they aren't
If you look at the videos they don't even have proper gear. They are just a bunch of "volunteers" who enjoy causing harm to others. Even if they were properly trained federal agents, they still wouldn't be police since police are done at a local level not a federal level.
They are literally federal police, a thing that this country has had for more than a century. The state defines what police are.
Both him and Good were shot by Border Patrol agents (not ICE officers) who had considerable experience.