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If everybody at ICE protests showed up with masks and a gun would there be more or less violence? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by venusaur@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Would protestors be safer? Thousands of masked people with guns. Chaos?

I can’t help but think that the only solution to ICE is a “well regulated militia” in combination with political reform, with both being necessary.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Then let's hope that from a post civil war America something good can still grow, then. 👍

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is my big hope. That this fall is so deep that it is burned into our DNA. That a more humane species of mankind emerges from the ashes.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you read God Emperor of Dune? 😁

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Why yes I have!

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Forlorn hope I'm afraid.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Probably. And irrelevant to me - I'll be long gone.

[–] foonex@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

Odds of getting a democratic regime out of a civil war are usually fairly low. The guys with the guns normally do not like to give away their power.

Look at our world right now. How many democracies vs. authoritarian regimes do you count? Then, look at the world at any other point of history outside of the last 100 years.

Democracy is a very unique and rare form of government. I would not gamble on a civil war achieving the outcome you would prefer even if the “good guys” win.