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[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

you're stretching the term "slavery" beyond what is acceptable in the context of historical discussion.

The inequality is one of the core principles of society. And even if the society was magically equal, your freedom would end where other's freedom would start.

Your definition of slavery is also quite useless simply due to the fact that everyone is a slave by your logic, as everyone has some kind of social obligation they are ought to fullfill, be it for the money or otherwise.

Egyptians didn't have that choice tho

Do we tho? Not having to work is a privilege. Without a job you'll most likely die a slow miserable death if you don't have that privilege, as we no longer raise our food, collect our drinking water, or build our own houses. Not to mention, we still have to pay taxes.

By the way, according to what i heard, working on a pyramid construction was exactly the last case — a form of tax payment.

Anyway, considering that workers were well fed, receiving meat, beer and bread in greater quantities than any peasant of the day would dream of, as well as they had medical care for their conscription period, one might hypothesize that most people of the time would've jumped on an opportunity like that.

Your argument is neither constructive, nor it helps to represent reality better, let alone do so historically correct.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for this, this is a much better way of outlining what bothers me about the weird pyramid-builder's rights movement that seems to always crop up in these posts.

You can make great arguments for better social welfare and support systems in today's world without trying to drag invented-ghosts out of the deep-past from ages that are so far removed from modern values and standards that it may as well be another planet.

I guess the Pharaohs actually did achieve some form of immortality if those giant stacks of rock get people on the internet 4000 years to confront their own poorly-framed social arguments.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Thanks! I'm not used to hear any kind of appraisal, especially online, so i will admit, i do feel a bit awkward right now :D

I guess the Pharaohs actually did achieve some form of immortality...

Well, AFAIR, they did believe that as long as their name was spoken, they continued to live in the afterlife, didn't they? They definitely were onto something

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i no longer firmly believe it

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

happens with the best of us. If anything, ability to change one's opinion instead of blindly insisting on it is always an admirable quality. Vocalizing such fact takes an even greater resolve.

No matter how firm your belief was, you have my respect.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll remain highly suspicious but if its just a tax payment system that isn't the worst thing ever. I am always more than happy to be wrong if presented with evidence

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago

well, it's always much easier said than done, isn't it:]