Asklemmy

These claims didn’t get any verifications, so it either happened or not. This seems to be why this claim didn’t get much popularity in non-communist cirlces, and with independent historians. If true, they were only able to make modest help, all the insurgencies made in all towns and cities were grass-roots movements. It’s either wishful thinking or a heavy bias if one wants to believe in unverified claims.

MI6 trained and both MI6 and the CIA supplied arms for the Fifth Column elements in Hungary. This is a common tactic, these "stay behind" operations and mechanisms for arming far-right death squads was the basis of Operation Gladio.

The CIA indeed broadcasted the Radio Free Europe, but only after they got surprised when the revolution has happened. It is important to note that foreign involvement only supported the revolution, and didn’t organize it or were physically involved with a bunch of troops such as the USA in the Vietnam war, and the USSR in the Afghan war

RFE began broadcasting its propaganda in 1949. Foreign involvement was in aiding, supplying, and arming the far-right, emboldening them to strike. Nobody is claiming that the west physically invaded Hungary, but instead that they provoked the most violent reactionaries into violence, a tried and true method of Color Revolution.

If you are commenting these to undermine the 1956 revolution, then we can also undermine all the insurgencies / revolutions / civil wars if any foreign involvement got into it, even if it was mainly / only by broadcasting radio signals, like these soviet attempts in regime changes or upholding them, or american attempts.

There's a massive difference between soviet aid for anti-colonial and anti-imperialist forces, and the west arming and supporting fascists. My point isn't that intervention is always bad, but instead that the west intervened in ways that furthered imperialism and fascism while the soviets were liberatory and expanded socialism.

The claims of the Arrow Cross Party being involved in 1956 was a propaganda campaign made on false allegations by János Kádár.. This is the source which contains his speeches where Kádár tried to legitimize his regime found on page 460. He (rightfully) executed Mihaly Francia Kiss, a former White Terror member probably as a legitimization of his propaganda, but there is no mention of him being involved in the 1956 uprising. Not in here either.. Kádár never provided proof for these involved Arrow Cross Party members.

MI6, when training the far-right elements, found despondent Hungarians that were supportive of the previous fascist regime. This included Arrow Cross Party members, but not exclusively, and the idea that no Arrow Cross Party member or supporter took place in the anti-communist violence has no proof whatsoever, while there is evidence of their presence.

Any former Cross Party shadow power was neutered by ÁVH’s action in finding political enemies. Also in 1944-45, these nazi scums were executed as well. You can only stay on this belief, if you assume that the ÁVH was ineffective at this mission.

The ÁVH did fail, that's why so many Nazis in Hungary went unpunished, and why the counter-revolution could have begun in the first place.

So your source says "A colour revolution is a term given to a revolution that appears to be led by the proletariat in search of liberal ideals, but is actually coordinated and funded by imperialist interests. ", and the definition for imperialism saying "It is a global system of economic, political, and military domination, with the imperialist powers using a variety of means, including economic sanctions, military interventions, and cultural influence to maintain their dominance over other nations. " by conveniently saying the non-capitalist can’t be imperialist. Cambridge and Wiki includes every ideology too..

Cambridge and Wikipedia define imperialism through liberal, pro-capitalist analysis. Prolewiki takes Lenin's observations about imperialism, which actually take analysis of imperialism to scientific levels. It's like Wikipedia saying trees are plants and stopping at that, while Lenin goes further into it, describing trunks, leaves, and other common characteristics. Wikipedia and Cambridge are of course liberal biased, heavily so, and since late-stage capitalism necessitates imperialism, it obscures this.

Going by this definition the Rakosi led puppet communist party using proletariat-led like slogans and campaigns which won with the blue ballot election fraud with USSR involvement, common people being exiled to Gulags who dared question the regime and instilling fear via ÁVH, forcing all the eastern bloc countries into the Warsaw Pact, etc. seems pretty imperialistic to me, or an oppressor. Same deal.

Intervention isn't imperialism, nor is imprisoning fascists. Imperialism is specifically about international extractionism, which late-stage capitalism necessitates. You think you've made a point by changing the definition of a word, but taking Prolewiki's definitions consistently, the USSR was not "extractionary imperialist," while the west was.

If you want to call your definition "influence imperialism," then this isn't a bad thing. The Statesian north liberating the slaves in the south would classify as imperialism, as would the soviets winning World War II, as would the PLA liberating Tibet.

Fair enough, even if these said journalists are extremely biased, or going against the establishment (rightfully), a healthy government shouldn’t exile or silence people and their media. Let people have all the free informations they can get. Unfortunately a lot of countries silenced media, like the banned communist books in the USA, Stalin removing any journal, article he doesn’t like, and only allowing movies which aligns with the USSR’s interests. Well these are media, but reality also aligned with non-communists, by showing the truths about Gulags, but Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was exiled there by the USSR. Others: Osip Mandelstam (prison camp), Isaak Babel (executed), Lina Shtern (exiled), etc. Subsequently all the other satellite stated used massive censorship too.

Censorship is employed in all states, by the class in power. It is better for the working classes to restrict the speech of capitalists and fascists than to let them use Radio Free Europe and other such propaganda outlets to spark counter-revolution and tragic bloodshed, but you seem to be arguing that that's a good thing.