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Just proving Carney’s point.

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[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 128 points 1 day ago (34 children)

Everything we buy from the US is made in China anyway, so we're just cutting out the middleman.

If we can eliminate US IP protection next then we can build our own technology and do away with them completely.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (27 children)

This is a super important point. You go to Home Depot and you see something with the American flag on it. You turn it over - "Made in the USA with domestic and global materials." Read - a lot of Chinese inputs, parts and subassemblies. That along with a small markup for the fellow poorly paid American assembly worker, and a huge markup for the corporation owner. Cut the middle man and let the American worker deal with him many-on-one - something that has to happen anyways, if this shit is to ever get better.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

with a small markup for the fellow poorly paid American assembly worker

You forget that the fellow poorly paid Chinese assembly worker endures even more hardship under a coerced labour regime. We must have transparent global supply chains - something China has been lobbying against for years - 'if this shit is to ever get better.'

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost everything I thought I knew about China came from usa sources which I now question.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Beware of Chinese propaganda outlets as well. Especially on Lemmy.

Whatever big NGO will have decent information on China, as will anyone who's been there. It's openly authoritarian and aggressively nationalist, but pretty well-functioning and stability-loving within those significant constraints. And like anywhere in peacetime, a normal day is normal.

(At least in the core Chinese areas. Obviously Xinjiang is fully in the middle of a genocide, and Tibet does have notes of the same system)

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I haven't. Us cutting the US middle man can only affect my fellow Chinese worker positively since there's more money left from the transaction without that middle man and less leverage to depress her pay, ceteris paribus.

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