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Everything we buy from the US is made in China anyway, so we're just cutting out the middleman.
If we can eliminate US IP protection next then we can build our own technology and do away with them completely.
Trump's tariffs are on things Americans buy from Canada.
This. I starred buying from AliExpress years back because amazon stores were just sending the exact same product for 5-10x the price. People got upset and said I wasn't supporting american entepaneurs stores they setup. Lol. And that Aliexpress owner is a billionaire. Sure, but why make Bezos rich too? Just buy direct.
π That would have been me some time ago.
This is a super important point. You go to Home Depot and you see something with the American flag on it. You turn it over - "Made in the USA with domestic and global materials." Read - a lot of Chinese inputs, parts and subassemblies. That along with a small markup for the fellow poorly paid American assembly worker, and a huge markup for the corporation owner. Cut the middle man and let the American worker deal with him many-on-one - something that has to happen anyways, if this shit is to ever get better.
The owner of home depot is a trump supporter. I do not shop there.
First off, you mean CEO. There were two co-CEOβs. One used to be a Trump supporter. He died.
Same. Rona's American private equity owned, so also a Trump supporter.
You forget that the fellow poorly paid Chinese assembly worker endures even more hardship under a coerced labour regime. We must have transparent global supply chains - something China has been lobbying against for years - 'if this shit is to ever get better.'
Almost everything I thought I knew about China came from usa sources which I now question.
Beware of Chinese propaganda outlets as well. Especially on Lemmy.
Whatever big NGO will have decent information on China, as will anyone who's been there. It's openly authoritarian and aggressively nationalist, but pretty well-functioning and stability-loving within those significant constraints. And like anywhere in peacetime, a normal day is normal.
(At least in the core Chinese areas. Obviously Xinjiang is fully in the middle of a genocide, and Tibet has notes of the same thing)
I haven't. Us cutting the US middle man can only affect my fellow Chinese worker positively since there's more money left from the transaction without that middle man and less leverage to depress her pay, ceteris paribus.
Oh, no, your fellow Chinese worker will still suffer from forced labour under the same regime while the markup goes the corporation owner. It's just now a Chinese company owner under the control of a dictator. That's the same thing, but you criticize the one and praise the other. What a hypocrisy.
The vast majoriry of manufacturing in China has always been done by Chinese companies. Goods we buy from Walmart aren't made by Walmart factories in China, employing Chinese workers. Walmart finds the cheapest Chinese manufacturer of trays then orders their Great Value branded version, shipped straight from the factory to the Walmart distribution hub. Walmart is the middle man. We cut them. The existing employer of the Chinese worker making the trays remains unchanged. There's no hypocrisy. We're cutting the most profit-hungry middle man from the supply chain is all. We know how things work.
You are just parroting propaganda.
Get. A. Real. Job.
I'm sorry you think that, but I'm not the one with half-dozen accounts spamming China-bad all day, every day:
O.O
Keep in mind when engaging. I've had conversations, when I still hadn't noticed that, where I'd discuss in good faith, that account would reach a pount where they don't have a good comeback, only for another account to restart the argument with slightly different framing in an attempt to reach a different conclusion. Also group up/downvoting my comments during discussions. It's crazy. I only ever engage with these accounts in case someone else reading is taking them at face value.
All good. You do what you gotta to stay aware and sane these days.
Or it was made with prison labour.
Yeah I always forget about that. I've yet to internalize that prison labour is an integral part of Anerican production, especially in certain sectors.
That's a very nice way of describing legal slavery.
"Assembled in USA" with the stars n stripes and a screaming bald eagle.
Its a shovel with a Chinese steel head in a Canadian wood shaft
I recall how happy I was with my stars-and-stripes Stanley FatMax tape measure when I bought it years ago. Back when we were still all-in on the US love affair and the China-bad train.
I really wonder what america is even producing at this point. Americans are all high and mighty and shit on "chinese crap". That's what i think when i have to use something made in the usa. They use their weird middle aged measurement system to produce cheap garbage where you need said middle aged tools to use or fix. And somehow it's expensive