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So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.

What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?

Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.

On which one should we put our weight?

PieFed all the way. It’s developing at lightning speed, while Lemmy lags behind as the transphobic genocide denying devs beg for donations with in built donation begging banners on all Lemmy instances front pages. Instances are apparently scared to defed from .ml for fear the devs wont support them with help.

Rimu has made some interesting choices, such as blocking 196 from default federating posts until a user subs first or a dislike for meme subs. But when spoken to has been receptive and removed such things or made them optional for admins.

Ethically and feature wise PieFed is in the lead, its not perfect but its open to change and receptive to ideas

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It still feels nasty using it now. I read this entire thread. Thanks for the very fucking confusing but interesting deep dive into the fashy software design theory. Shit is absolutely wild. I have no idea why anyone would want to even waste time implementing nonsense like this.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They just want reddit! They can't accept that their concepts of freedom and democracy create the exact same controls they claim to hate.

I just find it funny that the things I've complained about in the past are being removed. Vote weights are gone, community kicking is gone. I think you can still put warnings on external communities (maybe instances) which is silly.

I'm tempted to make a hard fork of it and remove all the reddit shit and fix the blocking feature as a laugh. I wouldn't have much interest in maintaining it though.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I think what I find the most hilarious after this is all of you hexbears have great social credit according to anarchist.nexus lol meanwhile it flags Donald J Musk and UniversalMonk lol

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

The universal monk one makes sense simply because of how much world hates that user

[–] edie@lemmy.encryptionin.space 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember seeing you talk in some other community and I didn't point it out but I want to make sure you know, attitude and reputation are not the same thing.

Anyways, yeah, since we don't have downvotes our attitude is always 1.0 (since it's just the ratio of upvotes to downvotes) and our reputation should be pretty high since it's only federated users that can downvote us.


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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah I comment too much. That makes sense with downvotes disabled, but it also highlights how silly it all is. If they could even see you, their systems wouldn't work anyway lol

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m tempted to make a hard fork of it and remove all the reddit shit and fix the blocking feature as a laugh. I wouldn’t have much interest in maintaining it though.

With how spaghetti the code must be given all the hard-coded ad-hoc on top of each other they have going on, you might be better off just rewriting it from scratch instead.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true. I actually had this thought last night instead:

Recreate the original reddit.com where it was just a single feed. Except with modern features like posting tags and user flairs. Basically, take Lemmy, distill it down so that it only serves a single community instead of many communities, and federate it.

The more I think about it though, the more it falls apart I think. Like, should users be allowed to follow other communities? Then at that point am I just recreating lemmy with more steps, where you have to host a whole web stack for each community? Probably.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I think if you want something without explicit communities centered around a singular main thread, I think something like a "tread tree", by which I mean you would have a main thread and users could either post in that thread or make a "node post" that when you click on it would take you to a sub-thread with the "node" as it's root, might be a better option than a single linear thread.

Not sure how one could go about integrating that system with the rest of the fediverse though. Maybe it could treat other instances as other trees where posts would be nodes of the main thread and comments would be in the corresponding sub-threads? You would simply have to sort the instance's posts chronologically to generate the main thread so it shouldn't be too hard to implement, and if there are too many you could only fetch the last few and only fetch older posts when the user scrolls far enough.

Also, without communities and with how long that system would make the main thread, that would definitely need some neat way to navigate the tree with the keyboard and some good filter and sorting options for users to get what they want from the tree, so tags, flairs, hashtags, and ways to look them up quickly would be a must as well.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don't like the software specifically, you can switch to lemmy.dbzer0.com instead. Those two instances (anarchist.nexus and lemmy.dbzer0.com) are for all intents and purposes the same instance.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk it seems ya'll have removed all that you can that sucks. This seems like a battle I'd worry about if I was in PieFed proper. I am so tired, boss.

[–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Dont worry, we've disabled all we can of that.

Piefed is nice in its own way, but god damn it, those "features" suck. Some of them we can't disable.

I especially hate the "AI detection" because it's sloppy, can't be disabled, and some people actually use the em dash, like me.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can it be forked and disabled? I honestly wouldn't mind assisting in maintaining something like that cause I'd use it. But thats a lot for something that I just love the amethyst UI for lol

[–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 days ago

It can, I never thought of having our own fork, but it could work I guess... I know a bit about it, and can keep it up to date with the latest updates. I'll have to ask our sysadmin but thanks for the interesting idea.

PS I created amethyst and its older predecessor, thank you xd ❤️

[–] edie@lemmy.encryptionin.space 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can probably upstream it some of these things.

For the AI disable thingy, see the enable_this_comment_filter or enable_chan_image_filter options to get an idea on how to implement a similar thing.


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