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Toyota Owner Didn’t Know His Car Was Talking To Insurers Until He Saw His Rates
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Yeah none of that's gonna happen anytime soon. When my 16 year old car bites the dust my next car will be another one from that same era. I'm not letting big brother know everything about me and jack up my insurance rates for the privilege of being spied on.
Amen. We all drive cars older than 2015, and I've gone against anything newer.
The other issue is all those Flock cameras all over our state and surrounding areas, is almost impossible to not be tracked. I didn't consent to those being used by or municipal or city.
I'm sick of being data points on a spreadsheet!!
I'm so happy my city took down our flock cameras
How'd they do it? Contract ended or petition?
Neither. The city shut them down in direct response to it coming into the open that they shared data with federal border patrol, claiming a contract violation.
Leave your mobile phone at home as it knows when you're driving, speed, acceleration, routes, times. Then you have the CCTV on the roads tracking your every move with your licence plate and facial recognition.
And when you get home turn off the smart TV, smart fridge, smart dishwasher, doorbell cameras, Alexa's, Google's. These devices aren't for our convenience primarily; they're built to collect our valuable data about our living habits.
Digitally connected electricity, gas and water meters all monitor our usage thus working out our lifestyle patterns and habits. Even smart lightbulbs have the capacity to snoop on our private lives.
From the moment we wake up to turning off the light these connected devices quietly gather data about us innocuously... even when we sleep (phones monitoring breathing sounds).
You can get "smart" devices that do not sell your data, but they are less common and they can be hard to find when shopping. You may not get a choice about "smart" meters, but you may be able to obfuscate your electrical usage with batteries. However, if the batteries have an internet connection they'll probably sell your data.
I totally get that sentiment, but there have been significant safety improvements in the last 20 years. Your chances of escaping serious injury in an accident are a lot better with a 2025 car than a 2005.
I have a 2024 and I don't like that it's probably sharing data, but I specifically didn't get an older used car because they're much less safe. I pay $90 for full coverage for two drivers in Denver without the telematics app discount.
Older cars would be perfectly safe if newer cars weren't gigantic land battleships.
Lol, I've seen this stupid take so many times here. You should educate yourself on car safety. There have been a lot of important safety innovations over the past 20 years and cars get safer every year. I'm significantly safer in my newer smaller-than-average car than I would be in the same model from 20 years ago.
Are you threatening higher insurance rates for someone who wants to drive an older car, in the name of safety?
Sounds like insurance companies punish drivers who can't afford/don't want new cars with higher rates, while using safety as a scapegoat.
You completely missed the point of my comment.
The person I replied to was worried that data shared by newer cars would be used to raise their insurance rate, so I mentioned insurance to say it didn't happen to me and my rate is actually pretty low for my area.
Hey, you do you. If you value your privacy over your physical safety then drive an old beater death trap.
Being poor is very expensive.