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Toyota, Progressive Insurance, and a data analytics firm are now being accused of collecting detailed personal driving information without proper consent

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 56 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They ask for consent in the terms and conditions, you know, that long annoying text that no one really reads when signing up for stuff.

That is where they put the consent.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing about 23&Me is that they’re collecting data not just on the people who signed up for the service - the ones who actually skipped and accepted the T&Cs - but their family members as well.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

So are Facebook and WhatsApp. If you’ve never used either of them they definitely know who you know and have a data entry with connections ready for you to claim if you do sign up to them.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Seen the third party message on the Wirecutter comments section?

“If you comment on these socks we’re recommending YOUR DATA WILL BE SOLD!!!”

Incredible and actually good guy vendor (Disqus) in a way for not hiding it unless it was their lawyers’ doing :)

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not real consent if you're forced to agree to use the product or if the terms allow the company to alter the terms.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

Further, like, as a third party I can't really consent. Say I'm out on a walk and I pass a Tesla, or that Tesla drives by me. It has a bunch of cameras, it's recording a bunch of shit. I as a passerby have no ability to consent or decline being recorded just going about my business.

I fucking hate that. Every time I see a modern car I'm grossed out because I feel like I'm being watched.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

And it's so ubiquitous that the only way to avoid them altogether is to become Amish.

Good luck never agreeing to binding arbitration. And even if you do get out of it, good luck ever holding them accountable in a class action. You might be able to file a class action, but no one can join you.

[–] OmegaPerseidTwitch@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it consent if it is forced?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No one is forcing you to use their services

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you need a service and every competing service has the same practice, then yes they are.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, I agree, I just meant it as that is how they see it

You must not be from earth friend.