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When Conservatives talk about"free speech" they are referring to hate speech and misinformation.
When Conservatives talk about "Free Speech" we should start shipping them to the states because we don't have that in Canada.
nah, you already shipped enough conservative to states that did so much damage to the US. ted cruz, j peterson,,,etc.
Dont forget the Elongated muskrat.
You mean hate speech. Yes, anyone who whinges about us not having free speech is talking about hate speech and they should be shipped off to the US.
No I mean Free Speech. We do not have that in Canada. We have Freedom of Expression which is limited by law.
But yes, we both agree regardless of how we are saying it they should be shipped south.
Freedom of expression is limited by law?
Freedom of speech is the freedom to voice ones thoughts.
Freedom of expression is the freedom to voice as well as use art and other mediums to channel that expression. Expression is almost always more permissive than speech.
In the US, the first amendment is pretty easy:
However in the US this freedom of speech has been treated as freedom of expression.
EDIT:
Misunderstanding on my part. Leaving up so everyone can see the egg.
Yes. Most Canadians understand this.
I am not sure who you are arguing with but you should probably read the thread before jumping into the pool bud.
I'm not arguing anything I'm trying to understand. Yes I know it's Canada, so that's why it's weird to me (I'm from the U.S.)
The document which governs this in Canada is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, part of the Constitution Act. The relevant portion is right at the beginning: "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." In other words, rights are not absolute, which allows things like laws against hate speech to be passed. Among the rights guaranteed by the Charter is "freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication". Freedom of speech is a subset of that.
( Full text of the Charter )
(In fact, even in the US, the right to freedom of speech is not quite absolute, as there are laws against libel and slander.)
Apologies for the misunderstanding! Your comment read a little combative to me, and that was my bad.
Yes, in Canada we have Freedom of expression limited by law which includes speech, art, and any other way one can think to express themselves. Generally speaking the only laws that limit Freedom of Expression are Hate laws, with an unfortunate exception for Religions which will hopefully stop in the future.
It is far more permissive than Free speech. If I am understanding your Constitution correctly I am allowed to say "Fuck the Police" in public, but if I say it on an album or put it on a sign it becomes covered by propaganda laws and most recently anti terrorism laws.
Is that correct? Or can you explain it better to me because I try to keep out of US Civics when they don't impact me.
I actually don't know that myself. I thought you could put Fuck the Police on an album or sign.
The things I know of is inciting violence, threats of committing a crime, and libel.
I think it is a little easier now, but I know NWA was listed as a terror group in the US for the song. Which likely fell under what you cited.
But at the end of the day what I have seen from the North looking in is every right has and will be violated if the ruling party doesn't like you. So whatever it means in theory usually gets slapped with practice. haha
Oh yeah. 100%.
Actually I'm supposed to update my ID, and I'm starting to wonder if I really want to.
They're referring to only hearing what they already think. They want the world to be an echo chamber of their own beleifs.
There was a time when conservative speech didn't mean lies, hate speech, and misinformation.
There was a time conservatives saw Russia as the threat it is, too.
When was that exactly? As far as I can remember, it's all that its ever been. Trying to scare people into voting against their best interest and pinning folks against each other at the benefit of the rich ruling class. It's always been like that.
That time's just perpetually in the past. Not sure if I should add "/s"
Just dogwhistles for it.
I can't remember who it was, but some comedian had this really funny bit that stuck with me ever since. It's the same jist as what your said but their delivery was hilarious to drive home the point. People only hark on about free speech when they're saying something shitty.
The phrase I heard was, when it comes down to it, free speech absolutists mostly want the freedom to say bigoted shit.
I'm pretty big on free speech, but if there aren't limits, it gives a platform for terrible people to gather and reinforce each other, which only helps terrible people.
What they really want is freedom from the consequences of saying their shitty opinions out loud.