MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
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Sadly, any serious analysis is meet with "Wumao Bot Tankie" on reflex.
More than two word of a post that don't begin "China Bad" bounce right off the mental deflector dish reactionaries shelter under.
You only get called a wumao if you parrot the official CCP line and never accept criticism of China or see any criticism as not legitimate. Also trying to paint China and it's government as flawless or deflecting any criticism to "what about the US on the topic" instead of actually addressing it will also get you called a wumao.
You aren't exactly making yourself credible so far.
Anything that isn't reactionary propaganda against China is "the official CCP line". You can say the most inane shit about their high speed rail network or post pretty pictures from the fucking Panda Sanctuary and it's CCP propaganda.
You're just proving my point. How can you engage in any kind of serious discussion when the rebuttal is "You think China is perfect!" and "Stop talking about non-China countries for comparison!"
How do you have a serious discussion when even the most minor concession is met by "So you admit China Bad! I win!" Nevermind when there's actual criticism rather than paranoid bullshit, and its just ignored because it doesn't sound critical enough.
Proving your point? You are literally angry that no one is gonna let you argue in bad faith by deflecting arguments away from criticism of China when there are legitimate concerns about how things in China goes. Because the US is shit, doesn't mean China can use that as a standard. Setting the bar so low is why you suck at debating.
Nothing "Bad Faith" about it. You're presented with facts, you reject them for propaganda.
The conversation dead ends as people downvote anything that rattles their priors.
Because the US is ideological, you reject that any other county might be doing better.
but they just said the US is shit?
you dont like being a tankie?