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Hell, even if the Republicans had held the convictions they espoused on Jan 7th, we'd be done with his insanity and cruelty...

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[–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe bring back social ostracism? The person loses all rights and privileges. Meaning even killing them will not be prosecuted.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

My issues with the state executing people is two fold. The first being if you allow the state to have that right it can change the laws and begin executing people for less severe offenses. The second and more crucial, is there are always mistakes made and you should not put an innocent person to death. Vigilant killings or those outside the system only make that worse. Truthfully you've described a very cruel punishment when life in prison works fine

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, but the secondo point is not the case with Trump and his ilk. There is no "mistake". He's such a vile individual that he may have deserved getting shot even before becoming president.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

I'd add a third issue. In a democracy, your social systems are the agency of the people as a whole. We collectively bear responsibility for those systems. By condoning the death penalty we embrace cold blooded killing for revenge, when it is done as a collective. Those in favour of the death penalty are thinking about the perpetrator and why we want to hurt that person, and not about the mental health of our society and why we should not be debasing ourselves. When I've discussed these matters with USAns, this issue is usually ignored or dismissed, and I think that says a lot about the condition of that society.