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... Is it really that confusing that an actor / voice actor can just be like, good at their job, and not be super involved in other things related to doing that job?
Like uh, every mocap actor ever. For every game with advanced animations. Every professional martial artist, dancer, stunt actor, gymnast, etc.
... Who would think they are necessarily all super duper into video games?
How about people who get face scanned or body scanned? Or people who compose music that goes into games, or sing, or perform the music?
... why would they all be super duper video game dorks?
People need to be a lot more tolerant of others not sharing their interests.
my favorite is when people do share an interest, but not in the same way.
i like gaming and cycling... but a lot of gamers and cyclists are hyper territorial about their specific genre they like, and think other genres are stupid/wrong/bad. i play a variety of games, and it never fails that someone hones in on that I played COD (I must be a fake gamer dude bro), or a JRPG (I must be an anime nerd) and then makes a massive generalization based on that one game I played. I also have like 6 bikes and do lots of different kinds of riding and people fixate on the one they don't like or have stupid stereotypes about and then get really accusatory about it. like owning a road bikes makes me one stereotype, owning a DH bike makes me another, and then they get super double mad at you for because they often regard these as contradictory boxes, only one of which you must fit in.
Shit is so weird. they also do it with identity now. I'm so sick of being told what I have to enjoy/not enjoy because of my skin color or my sex. i love to cook and clean and keep my place neat, but most women I meet think it means I'm latently homosexual because of that because in their mind straight men can't cook or clean, only gay men can.
Too many out here trying to limit the scope of the human experience. Not a lot of 'getting it' going on lately.
I feel that, man, so very much feel that.
rambling thoughts encapsulated
I play a ... wide and varied amount of video game genres, and... yeah, a lot of people tend to just stick to one, or a few, and... when I make comparisons between their favorite genre, and another that is actually similar is significant ways, or like, has a fundamentally similar core mechanic, but handles it in a different way...
... usually this causes a freak out.
You can very rarely get a super fan to admit that such similarities exist, and you can also rarely get them to actually define the things that they say make one kind of game better, or preferable to another kind of game.
I almost never start those kinds of discussions, but people like that can almost never finish them, they just tie themselves in knots to preserve some undefinable way that their fav game / genre is better or truly unique.
I got no problem with people having preferences, I hate people who make broad claims that are just objectively not true, not the case...
And then again, also yes with the sort of 'you're not allowed to like these two kinds of things I think are mutually exclusive for inexplicable reasons' thing.
Fucking hell. Like, I actually studied Karate for a decade, I'm not like a world champion or a great fighter... but I do know a little bit of what I'm talking about when I try to describe how the basic mechanics/kinematics of say, a fighting game that is at least grounded in realism should work.
But nope, with so many people, I'm basically just not allowed to know how to code and also know how to throw a punch, at the same time.
Just doesn't compute for them, even though these are the same kind of people who will swoon over a more famous person with a similarly mixed set of skills.
Oh well, normies gonna be normies.
Personally I'm all for gaming going back to being an actual niche hobby at this point... maybe that's half im getting old and cranky, and half 'dear god this fucking industry and its fucking "fans" '.
fans can't understand that something so pivot to their life was so trivial to someone else.
i feel this way about sports. i just don't care, i might pay attention if my local team is in the playoffs. most sports fans thing i'm an asshole and take personal offense to my lack of interest in sports.
it was especially bad in my working class home down where sports was basically a religion, so much so teachers would require you to go to sports games to get credit for class. it was absurd.
I meant the whole thing as a kind of rhetorical excercise, yes, I do understand why fans be doing fan stuff, haha!
I've been that way about a few things myself, I guess I am just trying to... offer a perspective that is hopefully a bit more grounded, a missive that a fan could read and maybe go... 'oh, im actually the comparatively weird one here'.
Not that theres anything inherently wrong with a 'weird' super fan... its just that if you lack self awareness of that, silly and stupid things begin to happen very fast.
But also yes dear god sports bros.
They fall into this just the same, many cannot concieve that a person could just not care about sports, as if that makes you a bad person.
But see again how its the lacking self awareness that they are fans that is the problem, it grows into a judgemental myopia.
People just want other people to like the things they like. Especially cool talented people. So they ask about it. It's not really weird or anything.
Wait what?
Who is ... asking... huh?
Yeah, its totally normal to ask people if they share interests that you do.
... its not normal to expect that everyone else will.
Its not ... reasonable, meaning, grounded in reality, to expect that like, every actor in a show for an IP is going to be obsessed with all things connected to that IP.
Media generally walks a line between being a geuinely expressive creative output... and being a mass produced product manufactured for a known market demographic.
The levels of enthusiasm and professionalism can vary wildly over everyone involved in that process.
Expecting Pearlman to be an avid Fallout player is like expecting the person in the Goofy suit at DisneyLand to themselves be a Disney Bounder, or whatever the term is.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Things like this, to some people, are just their day job.
Happy to be a part of it, but not... personally interested in also being a customer/consumer/partaker/etc.