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[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I still don't understand why people are recently switching away from Firefox. The telemetry thing seems totally overblown. The ads are absolutely minimal. It's great software.

[–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's been a steady exodus since less than a year ago when they removed the bit from their TOS about never selling your personal data and promising to protect your privacy.

I believe the recent surge has been the forced integration of AI features which are on by default (arguments were made to at least make them opt-in and not opt-out). Such features compromise privacy and security.

They're actively doing everything they can to monitize the consumer and going against their supposed stance as the 'privacy focused' browser.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Noting their blog response: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/

Essentially, they claim to still not be monetizing the consumer. I can find no reporting claiming that they have monetized any consumer, and it's been almost a year.

[–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're right, I probably should have phrased that as 'they appear to be doing everything they can to monetize the consumer...'

Actions speak louder than words and the action of modifying their TOU to remove the following really struck a nerve:

"Does Firefox sell your personal data? Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise."

Removing this statement feels motivated by more than the excuses they're giving - it feels like a betrayal. Subsequently shoe-horning in AI features doesn't help reverse this sentiment, it only emboldens it.

To each their own, but Mozilla clearly doesn't care about being 'the privacy focused browser' any longer or they wouldn't be taking their current actions.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I do not understand it either; my best guess is that some law intern messed up real bad, and convinced somebody it was a risky thing to leave written down.

But yes, I'm really really interested in if they do stop being a private browser. As you say, actions speak louder than words, and a TOU always felt like a pile of words to me.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A few things come to mind... for me the main reasons are:

  • The new Mozilla CEO pushes AI into Firefox, and for now it seems that it will be an Opt-out procedure to get rid of it. As a software developer with a bit of technical knowledge about ML and LLMs I have a deep mistrust against C-Level types blabbering on about AI as our lord and savior.
  • Mozilla is funded heavily by Google. Almost 85% of Mozilla's funds come from Search engine deals with Google. Google itself is one of the top 3 megacorps when it comes to surveillance capitalism, erosion of privacy and enshittification. You guessed it, that's not very trustworthy to me either.
  • There are more reasons, but I'm not a fucking wikipedia. Look it up if you really want to know.

Also I think it is good to have a choice, especially in the browser market where Chrome, Edge (MS-flavoured Chrome) and Firefox are the only viable mainstream choices for most people. If you're happy with Firefox, good for you. But there are valid reasons not to be.

  • So far it's just a tiny button in the bottom left corner that can be removed with two clicks. If it escalates then maybe I will worry.
  • That's fair but at the same time, at least it's a funded OSS project?

I can agree that Firefox isn't always taking the perfectly moral stance on every issue, but I just don't yet see a deal breaker materializing in the browser itself.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I just like the added privacy that privacy focused browsers...focus on. Not that deep really.