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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

I’m shocked kidnapping a world leader wasn’t a war crime.

EDIT: Is it not? I genuinely don’t know.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 15 hours ago

killing civilians on the open sea, blowing up ports, and kidnapping sovereign leaders are war crimes.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

In actual war, I don't think it is. But there's no actual war here, this is an invasion and a kidnapping for ransom.

Like in WWII, if the Allies fought their way to Berlin and took Hitler prisoner, I don't think anyone would have a reasonable objection. But this isn't war, he's not Hitler, and they didn't take a prisoner of war.

Furthermore, wars of aggression are prohibited, so even if you say it was a war, it's still an illegal war.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It is illegal, but their angle is that he wasn't internationally or nationally recognized as a legitimate leader.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 27 points 19 hours ago

I'm gonna be honest, snatching a regular citizen (or hell, even a violent criminal) from a sovereign nation while you bomb the shit out of their capital doesn't sound much less illegal.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fine with them snatching Maduro to be honest, he can eat dicks. But all the rest that followed? Fuck off...

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Despite hating maduro, the problem with allowing random countries to allow these kind of initiatives is that it justifies others doing the same. For example, China could now kidnap the Japanese prime minister due to their oppression of the workers and unpaid debts for wrecking the country in WWW2. Or Russia could try and kidnap the Ukrainian president to “fight the Nazis”, oh wait, that’s what they tried to do. Get reckt Russia

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 9 points 18 hours ago

^^^ absolutely this. The Orange bully is destroying what's left of post WW2 world order.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 8 points 18 hours ago

100% agree. It's just that Maduro is a cunt and I'm not gonna cry for him. His removal should have been done by his people, though.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 18 hours ago

And nor is using military for murdering random people on boats without any evidence or due process whatsoever.