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I've seen large groups of people pushing a few agents off from abducting some latinos, and it works. I've seen probably 5 different videos in the last few months of that. It actually works to save people from being disappeared when we have the numbers.
Where is your red line for getting "serious"? When he cancels midterms or otherwise rigs it against any Democrats? What they just ignore the courts (as they've done a bunch of times in other areas).
Dude read the fucking room
Everyone should determine where their own line is that, once the regime crosses it, they go into "fuck this we're changing it" mode. Crossing the Rubicon type stuff. It's important to make that red line ahead of time because otherwise you can get lulled into inaction since they do things just a little worse and worse so you're the boiling frog. There's a "They Thought They Were Free" quote about this, where they descended into genocide little by little, causing no one to push back.
I have no idea what you mean by "serious," only that you clearly mean something different by that word than I do, to the point that you offer it in quotes as though it is your euphemism for something else. Go ahead and define it if you want to discuss it.
And I have no idea what you mean by "red line" either. A line suggests a point at which I will change from one position to another, but I've repeatedly and explicitly stated my positions without generalities all along. Why do you have such difficulty stating what you plainly mean? Just go ahead and say it. What are you referring to by "red line"?
EDITED TO ADD: You know what, never mind. I've reread your comments and you are clearly just advocating for violence. Get lost. Blocking you now.