this post was submitted on 12 Jan 2026
869 points (99.0% liked)

World News

51936 readers
2616 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There had to be a World War for Nuremberg to happen. What my fear is instead of World War there will be a World Civil war.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

You can't have a World Civil War?

A civil war is between factions inside of the same country

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is a "world civil war" and how is that different from a world war?

My understanding is that a "civil war" is a war within a country, for the dominance and rulership of that country, usually over ideals or laws or something. And a world war is just.... a worldwide war. I wish my grandparents were still around to seek real advice on this, I truly miss them and their experience and wisdom.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will be factions within countries fighting amongst each other. There maybe alliances amongst those factions but no nations against each other. The end an apocalyptic fragments of Nations

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could say that some of the national borders as they exist right now are needlessly artificial.

Take Spain and Catalonia for example. The only reason that Catalonia is not an independent country is because Spain won't let them be. There's no real reason other than Spanish national pride and if there was a war between the two you could classify it as a civil war or you could classify it as a war between two countries, it's entirely a matter of opinion.

But I don't think that US politics has any real bearing on whether or not that happens. Political instability in the United States doesn't really lead to any obvious change in internal politics for other countries. External policies obviously would change but not internal ones.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Right wing nationalism is spilling into Europe, Aisa along with bad actors like Israel, China, Russia it will lead to factions and if we are truly unlucky civil war.

There is unrest in France, Germany, many of the Baltic nations, UK.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I just thought about ww2, and I just realized how egregious it is that the Japanese and Italians sided with Nazis.

They thought "yes, mhm, we are on that side".

[–] a_queer_one@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't sell Italy and Japan short.

Mussolini invented fascism, and did population-scale deployment of chemical weapons in Ethopia.. Imperial Japan are absolutely an all-time G.O.A.T of horrific war crimes.

Their behavior was egregious, and that's why they sided with the nazis.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Japan never even spoke to the Nazis.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Italy was more of a trapped situation

Japan pre-nukes however were extremely genocidal fascist, look up some of the stuff they did just before WWII, such as the "Rape of Nanjing", if anything the Nazis took some inspiration from them

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A slight nitpick but Japan didn't side with the Nazis. They had their own thing going on with China and simply saw the Nazis as an opportunity for some payback. It wasn't like they really bought into the Nazi ideology as didn't really apply to them. The Italians were all in on it though.

Had the war turned out differently there would have been a radical cultural difference between Nazi controlled Europe and Japanese controlled Asia. In the long run it would have probably led to another war because of the extreme cultural differences.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While they didn't 100% buy into all the details of Nazi ideology, the Japenese did believe themselves to be the superior race among the Asian peoples.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

IME most still do.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the long run it would have probably led to another war because of the extreme cultural differences.

Like a cold war.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Alternative history is sort of difficult because we don't know what the capabilities of those powers would have been. In order for the Nazis to have won the war a lot of people on both sides would have needed to make quite radically different decisions.

However it doesn't take much theorizing to suggest that Nazi Germany would have probably had nuclear weapons in that scenario (the Germans were moving in that direction towards the end of the war, but were never really able to make much progress because by that point they were losing badly and didn't have the resources anymore).

I can't see how Japan would have ended up with nuclear weapons though. So I suspect a certain amount of power imbalance would have existed.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hope is nice. Class is manufactured