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Not really a waste of money for a lot of buyers. The powertrain and platform is solid and not many vehicles can be taken off the lot and onto some serious off-road trails. I think the Bronco is about the only competitor.
They literally make you sign a paper that says it's not really for off road use. Solid powertrain??
"Jeep transmission problems often involve slipping gears, delayed or harsh shifting, overheating (with a burning smell), fluid leaks, and strange noises like grinding or whining, frequently occurring in models like the Wrangler and Cherokee, potentially linked to issues with solenoids, torque converters, or software, and sometimes addressed with fluid changes, TCM reprogramming, or new parts, but specific model years (e.g., 2007, 2008, 2012 Wranglers, 2014-2019 Cherokees) have known recall-related issues. "
This is junk for people with a Barbie fixation.
That’s over a decade old.
As an avid car guy who talks to lots of enthusiasts; the build quality issues have only gotten worse according to them. A friend was looking at the grand wagoneer and asked me about it, so I reached out to a guy who I knew was working at Jeep. Rather than tell me to tell him no, he sent me a picture of a finished one with a panel gap so wide he had his whole thumb in there.
Consumer reports also has reliability at 19/22 which is pretty bad.
I’m talking wranglers. Panel gaps are a feature on them. A Grand Wagoneer is a whole different market.
While true, I doubt your average buyer would want to take their $70k+ vehicle into rough terrain that leads to body damage. Like you spend more to get a more capable vehicle but the more you spend the less you want it damaged, which is an interesting catch 22.
You’d probably be surprised. A lot of new jeep and bronco owners go full send. Just look at their community forums or go to Moab or other offroad parks.
As a toy to tow to the Rubicon, I suppose. If that’s OPs plan, then good for him for having 70k to spend on toys.
But as a vehicle upon which you rely for transportation, it most certainly is not “a solid” anything.
This coming from someone who likes Jeeps.